Should bot's be built to the rules ?
Should the rules be altered for the bot's?

Should bot's be built to suit the arena?
Should the arena be changed to suit different bot's?

Could go round in circles.

Higher arena walls means more advantage for non flippers and disadvantage for flippers people can argue that it is also not fair? If you build a bot with the serious intention of winning, making it not suitable for the arena is down to the builders design choice which in my opinion should not really affect arena design. Like Craig said the arena is a bit small for them and the sides are too low. My view without causing offence is that to make the bot's a certain size is the builders choice.

Like it or not the most successful robots have always been pushers, flippers & spinners. You only have to look at all the different robot competitions all round the world and the top ranking bot's to see this. There are also a great number of arena designs which have not altered this out come. Each weapon type has the potential to win but its how it's designed and controlled which ultimately decides the outcome.

Ever since I first started following Robot Wars there as been constant discussions and some arguments to what is fair. We've talked about limiting weapon power, arena design, limiting costs and much more. But these are usually only to suit a minority of builders at the disadvantage of a larger majority of the community.

This is the first and maybe last time I will comment like this as I try not to upset people and stay pretty neutral within the community. I understand that because I don't have much time to build and appear at events any more, that people may feel that my opinion may not count. But I could not prevent myself on this occasion.

Just also like to say sorry to Robo Challenge for hijacking your thread. Looks like you put on a great event and a excellent show for builders to come and battle there creations. Well done.