Talk to the FRA

[james...venom]

The problem I see wwith the current rules Kane are that they are too open and that a walker really needs to be defined so if someone chooses to make one its not band the next year.

[woody]

The problem I see with the current rules Kane are that they are too open and that a walker really needs to be defined so if someone chooses to make one its not banned the next year.

Agreed ...

[craig_colliass]

It's fairly simple to negate the advantage of continuous motor drives by adding this to the rules ...
The drive motor must reverse at least once during any complete leg cycle... as it would in an electric actuator / ram design.

A combat robot with a step of 10cm running at 1500spm = 9 Kilometres per hour just over 5.5 mph this would quite slow in a combat situation and would mean an electric motor, going forward and stopping, and going in reverse and stopping, about 25 times per second.

Anyone got any ideas for motors and controllers that can do this or a transmission system that will cope?

Do you want any walkers in the scene or not?

[kane]

What are we attempting to allow or disallow as a walker?

Should a robot like Pilgrim be allowed?

I can understand why the rule needs clarrifying but the question is how?

[typhoon_driver]

Do you want any walkers in the scene or not?

Yes but the concern comes from the fact that a walker can weigh twice the weight of another machine. A huge advantage with spinning discs.

[woody]

And how many of these monsters exist?

I'd suggest this....
Simplify the current walker rules to allow bots that LOOK like they're walking (but no circular foot action ) and revise the weight advantage accordingly.

[craig_colliass]

Gary

Walking robots are slow, unresponsive, expensive, complex, unreliable and time consuming to build. If you haven't built one you may think it is a free ride to a double weight advantage. In truth this is not the case, if you see the fight between Tornado and Anarchy (probably the best fighting walker ever made) you can see it doesn't help much.

[typhoon_driver]

Well I guess there's only one thing for it then. I'm just gonna have to build a featherweight walker then

Sort out the rules gents and I may look at taking the angle grinder to that 31kg 20mm thick hardox disc I got made for a heavyweight a while back :twisted:

[craig_colliass]

I've got one of those too

A walker is a robot with legs supporting the whole weight of the robot all the time, with a walking gait were the foot tracks an ellipse ratio 2:1 or better

Let the wars begin

[robotwars]

If so......I'm there with a 15kg full body walking spinner.

things will get silly !!

I dont think it will ever be an easy rule to make.

Derek Foxwell didnt like shuffle bots, he definately wanted robots with legs, exposed, slow, and easy to rip off ( good tv ) !!

I'm following the discussion with interest, love to build a walker again, but do agree the extra 13.6kg has to be earned !

John