You know what? Forget it. I'm tired of the arguments clogging up threads on ARC and FRA. I'm tired of entire threads being screwed up over some mistake of mine(and yes, I have made several mistakes during my time on one or both forums). If you want to talk about this, then come to ARCCon '10 or ARCCon '11. If you tell me that you're going, I'll come, and we'll settle this.