mainly now im looking at the sabertooth 10a, it seems to have everything i need, but just checking around as if i broke thats 50 quiid down the drain, buying two of the 14.4v drills from argos, as 4 would mean id need two speed controllers somebody said, but if you kno otherwise please let me know, most things are sorted and should have GIZMO, mostly likely to be its name after my cat, up and running by early 2010, thanks again for everyones help in this, ive really benifited from it, see you at some event somewhere