clive suggested this thread should change name to a group of men standing at a bar with a pint talking rubbish i think he hit the nail on the head..... in that case, its your round clive !!

So just done my 6 hour drive home.... what am i doing tomorrow... having a nice lie in and spending time with my family.... naaaahhhhh tomorrow im doing something new... up at 5:30am and spending two days helping fitting security alarms !!!

Why do I volunteer to do these things !!