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  1. #721
    What would the calculation be to go from a known voltage, known kV rating and known RPM to get the torque figure at any given speed?
    And the Scorpion HK-4035-630KV has a max continuous current of 90A and Max Power of 4000w.
    [Did some calculations and its possible to get 2 HK-40's in Conker 2 with two 10S lipo packs... a rough top speed of 14'000 RPM... overkill somewhat!]

  2. #722
    I'm not all that savvy on Brushless motors, but with DC you get Max Torque at 0 Rpm and 0 Torque and Max Rpm.

  3. #723
    Quote Originally Posted by Eventorizon
    What would the calculation be to go from a known voltage, known kV rating and known RPM to get the torque figure at any given speed?
    And the Scorpion HK-4035-630KV has a max continuous current of 90A and Max Power of 4000w.
    [Did some calculations and its possible to get 2 HK-40's in Conker 2 with two 10S lipo packs... a rough top speed of 14'000 RPM... overkill somewhat!]
    Not sure of any torque figure calculations, If you have it all set up for the robochallenge open day ill show you how to use the data logging features if you have it set up on a laptop?

    Dont bother with dual brushless, its more hassle then its worth mate.

  4. #724
    What issues did you have when running dual brushless in 360? I would guess mainly synchronisation?

  5. #725
    I guess the same issues as with multiple brushed motors driving 1 powerconsumer.

    In Mantis we tried a 3 Speed 900 setup to drive the pump. After 1 fight 1 motor was toast, and the 2 others weren't in good shape.

    In the past, coupling 2 IC engines to 1 propeller like this engine, wasn't a succes either.

  6. #726
    To start with you have to power it up initialy and assemble your gearboxes powered up so they start at the same home point as eachother..

    then you need a second speedo as its not suggested you run two brushless motors of one esc, although i think its been done before, on small scale.

    And then no motor is totally identicle to another, one will try to accelerate harder then the other, then the other one might have a higher top speed etc etc draging the faster one down or speeding up the slower one etc, basically its just not very easy unless you had something like a one way bearing setup for each... but then the slower motor would pretty much become redundant on top speed anyhow... and getting a one way bearing to take the shocks is also quite hard (tried it)

    I tried it because i was one of the first people to use brushless in the UK and high power motors werent really availible easily at the time, So i used two of the best i could find.

  7. #727
    The only time I have seen more than one engine joined successfully is here... though its not just as simple as bolting 2 motors together... or even 3!
    [attachment=0:118a27qu]napier_deltic_animation.gif[/attachment:118a27qu]
    3 opposed piston engines joined together, sharing the same 3 cranks. Used mainly in the 50's and 60's in diesel electric trains.
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  8. #728
    Found a few faults this weekend at the robochallenge open day that i wouldnt of found until the uk champs, so thanks to the RC lads for that, I welded some spikes on the sides to stop it landing on end, also i found the front ali plate that stops shrapnel going into the robot to thin, it bent from the force of slamming into stuff, and caught in the drum, so ill make a new one from titanium...

    The biggest fault i found is the drum teeth werent up to the job, they snaped, pulled out and ripped all the bolts out along with it, after talking to the big nipper team and sam smith i think the way forward is to go for a T shaped tooth thats keyed into the drum and taped in from the sides, with teeth made from a high grade hardox/or toolox, ive already milled the teeth slots 16mm wide by 16mm deep, so beefy teeth are the way to go!

    ... fofx1AV82Q

  9. #729
    Very nice. I think a dance-off is in order at our next event

  10. #730
    Funk me is that an aerial?! Old Skool.

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