The future of roboting

[craig_colliass]

Thanks for the responses so far

The idea is not going to be with out problems to overcome.

What I had in mind was to have the arena space the same (or smaller for just featherweight sizes) as we have now, the same polycarbonate sheets could be used to cordon off the area for the audience watching.

As far as people going to see this type of robot combat it may be different, there maybe more people we just don€™t know until we try. But the robots in this format could use ordinary arenas as well. So retaining our core audience.
The idea is to expand the size of the net because the fish are fewer.

What ever we as a community decide to do I will support.
But if the whole thing goes belly up! Then this format could re-start as a grass routs fighting robot format. Who knows as such it may get even more media coverage than the old format gets now.

We the roboteers can plan together our future and the EO€™s can help in this.
Remember
€If you always do what you€™ve always done,
you always get what you€™ve always got€ :shock:
If your lucky and luck may soon run thin.

[dgr]

There are people who build RC tanks with paintball guns that go at each other in field combat, that wouldn't be a big step away from Craig's idea. They don't really have an audience though, they just do it for the hell of it.

I always liked the idea of a sort of robot wars on water, building model boats with armour and weapons and trying to sink your opponent. Would take a while to sort rules out, but would be fun.

[robotwars]

I'm with Gilbert ! I want to fight robots, and get to flip Envy oota every weekend !!

My PERSONAL prediction for in 3 years time......

The whole thing does a full circle, and we end up playing robots in pub carparks !!

Unless something changes.

John

[craig_colliass]

Works for me John name the pub

I think the audience numbers will recover a little.
But I do think there is room to move away from the Robot Wars formula to something better, or a better match for the circumstances we now face.
I still think that the featherweight robots will be the preferred size for the medium term 2-4 years and the heavies will become the fossils of the robot world, but i think they will be popular again in say 4 years.
Like I say with all terrain feathers, you can have an event in a back garden with friends and family plus you don€™t have to pay pub prices!!!

[dgr]

How much cost difference is there between running something like the featherweight champs with Robots Live's little arena to running a full heavyweight competition?

Such a shame EO unity will never happen, that would save everyone time, effort and money.

[craig_anto]

how would people invisage the Eo's working together? I'd be willing to work with any of the other EO's so long as its benificial to the sport
couldnt see how it wouldn't be

[robotwars]

id like to know how eo's working together would make a difference.
What are peoples vision for the future there?

I don't think were doing bad at the moment. No real politics involved and everyone is doing there thing.

I think were all doing the same thing heading in the same direction. Roboteers have a good choice of events . So all good.

[craig_colliass]

Hi Jonno
Just some thoughts,
One area were EO€™s could work together is, to arrange the calendar so that there is an even number of events through out the year, and spread as evenly as possible geographically, the south west dose not get much what about Bristol? Also Scotland.
I think we all would like to see the championships spread between the EO€™s so it is not anyone€™s burden. And people can feel freer to go to them.

Also I think it would be good to hear, a united statement of intent regarding the middleweight class, there are several out there so if there is enough people commited to bringing them along to an event. They would know that EO would do all they can to arrange a few fights in the shows. This subject has been a bit of a chicken and egg problem.

Also it would be good in the present environment to get different EO€™s to share best practice with regards to: -

1/ Venue hire negotiations.
2/ Equipment hire arrangements.
3/ Crowd control and general safety issues.
4/ Marketing and promotion techniques.
5/ Arena design and stage effects information.
6/ All the other bits I missed.

I don€™t expect any EO to regard these points too seriously, but you did ask.

[ady]

dont know about other people, if their were any sort of mw's comps, i would build one..

[robotwars]

Hiya,

Ok some answers

One area were EO€™s could work together is, to arrange the calendar so that there is an even number of events through out the year, and spread as evenly as possible geographically, the south west dose not get much what about Bristol? Also Scotland.

I agree that it would be benificial if there was an even spread both time, and location, however at the moment we are quickly running out of suitable venues, and they are booked up well in advance. Ive just about finished organising the 2010 calender already ... ( Yes there is going to be one LOL )

I think we all would like to see the championships spread between the EO€™s so it is not anyone€™s burden. And people can feel freer to go to them.

Agree it has mileage, there was some discussion about this last year about the 2009 champs but maybe for 2010 it could happen.

Also I think it would be good to hear, a united statement of intent regarding the middleweight class, there are several out there so if there is enough people commited to bringing them along to an event. They would know that EO would do all they can to arrange a few fights in the shows. This subject has been a bit of a chicken and egg problem.

I have been honest, I don't really agree that there is mileage in middle weights...... there are currently about 40 active Heavyweights, I would be willing to add a middle weight fight into the show, but I dont see why we need to start again in another weight.
Unless im mistaken, youd still use bosch 750's, youd still use wotty, or roboteQ, still use Nicads, so wheres the advantage..... just build a heavyweight.

Also it would be good in the present environment to get different EO€™s to share best practice with regards to: -


2/ Equipment hire arrangements. - I think both of us own most equipment apart from Gas,
3/ Crowd control and general safety issues. - FRA Business and is discussed

1/ Venue hire negotiations.
4/ Marketing and promotion techniques.
5/ Arena design and stage effects information.
6/ All the other bits I missed.

I don€™t expect any EO to regard these points too seriously, but you did ask. [/quote]

I think you have to remember that although in theory it would be good to all work together, the bottom line is that all 4 EOs are in fact commercial competitors. Things like how we negotiate with venues to get the best deal as an example, is up to each individual and there business skills.
Marketing and promotion, I think we both do the same.
Arena design, and stage effects, we each have our own views, and future aiims within our own show.

Im not being negative about what your saying, I'm being practical, and honest. There is a point up to a line which we can work together but once things start getting commercial, its doesnt work. I think as it stands now is about the best it will get.

A wise person once said to me.... Healthy competition is good for any business, as it stops complacency A true statement,

John
http://www.RoamingRobots.co.uk