valliant: hehe i love fighting flippers and spinners...no i really do! valliant works well upside down and he has 4mm polycarbonate is basically spinner proof! so yeah i will go for eor aw cos it will rebound off my polycarb and if i can get him befor he spins up he can be shunted out easily!

defiant: lol work with anty b and push baby hell out

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