Cheers Joey....Envy did work well i was pleased all in all. Still i have found yet another prob in for form of a dodgy brush in the motor which hindered things a little. But wont the comp fight and did well in melees. Now to Thor.....We have worked very very hard and percivered with Thor and the results are starting to show. Dtk did get a beating but remember it was still driving at the end of the fight....a testement to a very good robot. We are very pleased tho and look forward to the next event