There's quite a lot wrong with that...for starters superheavyweights generally weigh 154kg, and I'm not even going to go into the extremely ropey (and, I am reliably informed, utterly incorrect) physics of the 'weaponry' :P
superheavyweights usually weigh 150 kg mark, and am I right in thinking the 2 discs are meant to rip an opponent apart by hitting it in different rotational dimension? the physics you used to explain it are... complex at best, perhaps you can write it down in a more understandable way
How about now?
Tetris (IS A 2-PART CLUSTERBOT!!!)
Weight: 150kg combined, 75kg for each part.
Shape: (Each Part) Tornado (S7) with a scoop at the front.
Colour: One is pink, the other is green. The pink one has PART 1 written on it in black, while the green one has PART 2 written on it in white.
Dimensions: (Each Part) 75cm x 55cm x 15cm
Drive: (Each Part) 4 24v S28-150 Magmotors, powered by 5x NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: (Each Part) 4 small Biohazard style rubber wheels.
Armour: (Each Part) 5mm Titanium
Speed: (Each Part) 15mph
Ground Clearance: (Each Part) 0mm at front due to solid Hardox scoop, 5mm at sides and back.
Turning Circle: (Each Part) 0m
Weapons: (Each Part) a 10kg horizontal clockwise-spinning disc in the scoop, powered by an LEM170 at 36v. The disc spins at 2000rpm, and is equipped with 8 0.5kg hardox teeth. To simply explain the physics: Both robot hit the opponent with their clockwise-spinning discs, the force of the hits combine in the middle of the target, and the counteraction of the forces causes serious shock damage to the target
Srimech: Both parts are invertible.
Strengths: Clusterbot, should be able to tear opponents twice as big up due to Newton's Law.
Weaknesses: A good flip and they should end up in Canada. Plus, if they're not aimed precisely, they could go flying across the arena.
Bio: I've had this idea for some time now. If 2 discs hit a target in a near straight line, the resulting counteraction of forces(Existing due to Newton's Law) should be enough to cause a small shockwave of counteracting forces in the opposing target, causing massive physical and shock damage. Now I've finally built the robot to test my theory. Even if it doesn't work, it should still do quite a bit of physical damage with the discs.
And if anything, at least help me iron out the bugs in this robot:
Tetris Un (Classic Heavyweight)
Weight: 75kg
Shape: Tornado (S7) with a scoop at the front.
Colour: Pink, with PART 1 written on it in black.
Dimensions: 75cm x 55cm x 15cm
Drive: 4 24v S28-150 Magmotors, powered by 5x NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: 4 small Biohazard style rubber wheels.
Armour: 5mm Titanium
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm at front due to solid titanium scoop, 5mm at sides and back.
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapons: A 10kg horizontal clockwise-spinning disc in the scoop, powered by an LEM170 at 36v. The disc spins at 2000rpm, and is equipped with 8 0.5kg hardox teeth.
Srimech: Both parts are invertible.
Strengths: Can do quite a bit of damage with that disc.
Weaknesses: A good flip and it should end up in Canada.
Bio: Half of Tetris, my Cluster-Superheavyweight, put to use as a Classic heavyweight(since I didn't have one).
And here's a battle to see how good/bad I am:
THE REVISED ROBOT WARS SERIES 1 FINAL:
Beast of Bodmin vs Pussycat vs Cassius II vs Chaos 2 vs S.H.A.R.O.N vs Griffon
Now, let's look at the robots to see how much different they are from Series 1:
Beast of Bodmin: Originally Roadblock, this robot was the winner last time around. With a new body shape and front lifting tusk, with the Beast rule again?
Pussycat: Originally Bodyhammer, it was the only other robot besides Roadblock to still be alive at the end. It lost the judges' decision, though. With its deadly cutting disc and full scale invertibility, with the cat keep its 9 lives?
Cassius II: Formerly Recyclopse and Cassius, they broke a drive chain in the final, and then lost the final the next year. With the anti-pit spike and ferocious flipper, Cassius II may finally win.
Chaos 2: Formerly Robot the Bruce and Chaos, they were stuck on their side in the final, and lost to Mace in the heat final next year. with the flipper that has flipped countless opponents OOTA, will Chaos win again?
S.H.A.R.O.N: Formerly T.R.A.C.I.E, they got wedged onto Cunning Plan previously, skipped Series 2, and didn't manage to qualify for Series 3. While the shape is the same, the weapons are 3 spikes on each side, and a drill at the rear. This time, will S.H.A.R.O.N bloom?
Griffon: Formerly Cunning Plan, they were stuck under T.R.A.C.I.E in the grand final, and next year went out in the gauntlet. However, it did win the Internet Insurrection grudge match. Will Griffon regain glory again?
3..2..1..Activate!!!
And in comes Chaos 2, immediately going after Griffon. Cassius just staying out of trouble, and the Beast of Bodmin going after Pussycat. S.H.A.R.O.N is now ramming Griffon with the rear end, as Cassius comes in with a little flip on Pussycat. That won't do anything, Rex. Pussycat's invertible. Griffon now tries to lift S.H.A.R.O.N, as Chaos 2 and the Beast of Bodmin have a little tussle, and oh! Chaos 2 has flipped the Beast of Bodmin over! And they're immobilized, the former students from Cornwall! Meanwhile, Cassius II is trying to flip Griffon, but Griffon getting under Cassius and lifting it over. That's okay. They can self-right, and doing so. Meanwhile, Pussycat scratching the Polycarbonate armor of Griffon, and S.H.A.R.O.N ramming Pussycat, and in comes Chaos 2, getting under Griffon, and flipping it over! Griffon tries valiantly to self-right. I don't think they can, and nether do they, and Griffon just sits there. Oliver looks quite irritated in the control pod, as S.H.A.R.O.N is flipped by Cassius II. Pussycat digging into Rex's machine, and causing some scratches on the polycarb. Chaos 2 getting under S.H.A.R.O.N and flipping it again, while Cassius II shoves Pussycat towards the pit of oblivion. Will the Cat go down? Do, as it barely manages to escape being pitted. Meanwhile, Chaos 2 has propped S.H.A.R.O.N on the arena wall, and I don't think they'll be getting down from there anytime soon. They're immobilized, as Cassius II fires the rear spike at Pussycat, and the spike pushes Pussycat into the previously unused Pit of Oblivion! Now Chaos 2 gets under the rear of Cassius II, and flipping it once, twice, and thrice. As the time ticks down, Cassius II bravely flips Chaos 2 over, just as CEASE is called.
The judges will have to decide. On the left is Sam Taylor: Pit reporter of VRW3 and a good friend of mine. In the middle, we have Sean Shope: My youth group teacher and another good friend. And on the right, we have Connor Meyer: A crazed ping-pong enthusiast and all around pain-in-the-asp. Now let's look at the highlights, shall we?
First off, Chaos 2, performing remarkably well, flipping and immobilizing the Beast of Bodmin. Cassius II flipping Pussycat. There we have Griffon lifting Cassius II over. Cassius II brilliantly self-righting. One of the real winners for me is there, where Chaos 2 flips Griffon over. Cassius II also did a good job, flipping S.H.A.R.O.N, and surviving battering from Pussycat, and eventually pitting the Cat.
Well, the judges... have made their decision. Based on style, control, damage, and aggression...
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AND THEY'VE GONE FOR CHAOS 2!!! Chaos 2 and Cassius II, come up to the platform!
Me: Well, Rex. You at least got revenge on Pussycat.
Rex: Yeah. It finally felt good to pit Pussycat. Also, I didn't drive into the pit this time! *Chuckles*
Me: Well, weren't you worried about Chaos flipping you into the pit, or out of the arena?
Rex: Of course! We did some testing about 2 years ago, and Chaos flipped me numerous times.
Me: Well, you did a great job to get this far. ladies and Gentleman, let's give it up for Cassius II!!!
*Crowd Cheers*
Me: Now, George. Doesn't it feel good to be the winner of this rematch?
George: Of course it does. And Rex was right about the test fights.
Me: Well aren't you glad you got rid of Beast of Bodmin?
George: Of course. I mean, last time we were lucky to make it here, and now that we've won, especially against the previous champs, it feels quite better.
Me: Well, here's your trophy!!! *hands George Francis his trophy* *Crowd cheers like mad*
Me: Well, we brought them back,
And got an applause,
And we settled this match
On Robot Wars. Goodbye!
*Credits play*
What did you guys think of that?
Okay, it's time for me to do something nobody in fanfic is brave(or stupid) enough to do... Partially clone one of Timothy James Sillery's robots...
Counter
Weight: 100kg
Shape: A semicircle attached to a scoop. The semicircle is the back of the robot.
Colour: Just the color of titanium.
Dimensions: 70cm x 90cm x 25cm
Drive: 4 S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 6x NiCad Battlepacks
Locomotion: 4 aluminum boron carbide wheels with Vulkanized rubber tyres.
Armour: 6.5mm titanium/vanadium alloy
Speed: 20mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm at front due to solid titanium/vanadium alloy scoop. 5mm at sides and rear.
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapons: It can ram you quite hard.
Srimech: It is invertible
Strengths: Good pushing power, designed to kill Uberspinners(Including Mass Disctruction Ultimate 4.1)
Weaknesses: No active weapon, can be banned from tournies that do not allow passive weaponry.
Bio: Simply: welcome to Grand Theft Robot. TJS's horribly twisted robot Counter was seriously revised by me to become what TJS had tried to make it, but had not succeeded with: An Uberspinner-killer.
There's a good reason nobody tried to clone one of Tim's robots before Mark...
I'm disappointed in you Mark. You evidently have some talent in you, as evidenced by the fact that you can come up with lots of interesting ideas (usually of the illegal and/or impractical manner but there are a few good ones) and adapt the same basic drivetrain to lots of different concepts, so I ask you this...and I want you to answer me, not fob me off with another set of stats:
Why do you choose to take other peoples' designs without their permission and improve them, instead of coming up with your own?
It doesn't matter if the designs in question are old, retired, or belong to people who have left the forum or been banned. If the design isn't yours, and you do not have specific permission from the person who originally gave it you to use it, under no circumstances are you to take them to massacr-sorry, adapt in whatever way you choose. It's intellectual property theft and there's no reason for it at all (if you have a reason that isn't nonsensical and is somehow connected to the topic, I'd very much like to hear it)
It's okay to copy a design feature as used in another robot (if it wasn't, there would be next to no new vapourbots around) but taking the name, the very specific overall design, the unique weaponry or the spirit of another machine without asking permission first is not tolerable. I welcomed you back with the hope that you had changed; it has become very clear to me that you haven't at all, and I shall be forced to lobby for your rebanning at the next available opportunity unless you shape up quick. You've been given good advice, which you choose to disregard, on this issue before...now, if it's not too difficult, could I have an answer to my question please?
I will answer the question as carefully as I can.
The reason is: because I'm afraid.
I know this sounds very weird, but it shouldn't. I am afraid. Afraid that my bots will do suckishly in any tournies I enter them into. Afraid that I can't try an untested design without it being frowned upon by everyone. Afraid that if I make one robot even partially reminiscent of somebody else's(Eg: Wishbone), that I will be banned, crushed via the banhammer, and have my remains swept up into a dustbin.
So that's why. For me, it just feels safer to make a copy of a robot that won 1 fight and lost everything else, instead of trying a brand new and possibly crazy design which might go out in the first round.
I hope this make sense, and if it doesn't, I understand. But you need to realize that I'm afraid of my old/new designs coming back and haunting me with a massive amount of losses.
Example:
Look at Cyrilium! Lost against Your very own No Objections in Liam's Challenge Belt, was given invertibility, then lost again in the same competition against Nitro-Gene 4.0, was revised as Cyrilium 2, lost to Liar 2 in Robot SMASH!!!, lost to Infusion in AJWars: Another Era, was revised as Cyrilium Mach 2, was the first one out in the first EOTR Annihilator, lost to Wedge Devo in the EOTR Challenge Belt, was revised again as Cyrilium Mach 3, never saw combat, was permanently retired, then rebuilt in Cyrilium 2 format as American Oil.
Out of all the robots here, it has the worst Win/Loss ratio in the entire FanFic community!
So does that (hopefully) answer your question?
If I'm reading that correctly, you're scared of being banned if you copy other people's robots...so...you copy other people's robots?
Let me look at what I typed for a moment...
*Reads post*
You're right! I would try and fix it, but the editing time is up.
Allow me to explain. (And hopefully not counteract myself...)
Say I want to build a powerful spinning robot with twin vertical discs, like Heavy Metal Noise, but I'm afraid that it'll go out in the first round of... Let's randomly say PTT7. So what do I do? I look for a tried and true design, and make a copy of... Let's say Wedginator(It had 2 spinning discs). I know that Wedginator 1.0 won only one fight, but I go ahead and make a copy of it since my idea(The twin vertical spinning blades) could do no better. But then again, it could do no worse also... And therefore I should go for my idea, and if it doesn't work, refine it, enter it in another tourney, scrap it, replace it...
You know what? You're totally right! I have no right at all to copy other people's designs! And I should come up with my own designs!!!
Admittedly, I have screwed up in this area(copying other people's bots without permission, although I don't think you could with permission) way more then TJS, but I just realized that, on my own, I could probably build something even better! Thanks, Joey!
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