getting somewhere now woody, swapped wires on one motor, it now drives fine, all controls are going in the right direction. what seems to be happening now is though when you press forward the RIGHT motor starts moving alot sooner than the other. when you press reverse the LEFT motor starts first, so when your driving forward or reverse its pulling one way quite bad and wont go straight. its really bad at full speed. wondered if altering trims would do anything but didnt seem to make much difference.