TantoV5 is 20mm hardox sides with 15mm hardox front and 8-10mm hardox body, solid Aluminium wheels vulked and it weighs .......84kg Shock horror!! a Tanto that weighs more than 80kg!
My point is that you can use thick hardox but your robot needs to be small, less surface area equals thicker armour
and no active weapon.
Well being as you asked, I€™ve taken a look at yours as well Tony.
Cyberdemon: Seems fine weight wise, there are some issues with the design but I€™ll explain those another time if you want me to.
Shovearound 2: Despite what thickness armour Tanto has, it doesn€™t have lifting forks and 4x LEM-130€™s to weigh it down. I suggest maybe 10mm at the front end and 6 or 7mm at the sides and back with maybe 4mm on top. The four LEM€™s aren€™t all that necessary and chopping them down to 2 could save you 6 or 7 kilos.
Terror Gear 3: Not bad, but there€™s no need for the six PERM 032€™s. Just one for the weapon would work just fine, and just a couple for the drive. Maybe go for some LEM-130€™s here for drive again.
Novastorm 2: Again, is there a need for the four drive motors? Otherwise it looks ok, but look into a couple of decent Mags for this one.
Stalker 2: The weight is ok, but significantly I know of featherweights that use Astroflights for drive and EV Warrior€™s for weapons.
SUNCUST: The weight seems to be alright with this one.
Shotgun Slapper: Sort the drive train out again, but the weight is good.
Jack Kennedy: Again, just change those four motors to two better ones.
Anyone else?
Meh, whats important here is that vapourbotering is an RPG where the rules merely state choose some parts and try to keep them within the weight limit. This loose approach boosts creativity and realism (to an extend), but also makes stuff complicated since there isnt a clear stat bar (or however normal games work) to fill up. More expirienced vapourboteers have learned it, some still make mistakes here and there, and newcomers often have more trouble, thats very understandable really.
And even if you were loosy at this Tony, that would just mean youd be stuborn, making loosy stats for 2 years (which youre hardly). Pauls brand new and can learn.. has to learn actually, to become a dangerous competitor (and seeing the research he already did to get here, Im sure he can be one).
Yeah.
Hurry up with those stats Matty!
jk
(Message edited by MajinB on November 16, 2007)
If you are stuck, my tip for starting out is to basically find a similar robot that someone else has designed, and modify thier stats into your own, leaving motors and more technical things alone (which should be fine, as youve picked soemthing approprite) Im not saying copy people, but take advantage of the knowledge of others until you get your footing.
The other trick with weight is to have a sort of mental checklist of where your weight is going to be distributed - take weapons, armour, drive and give weight accordingly. There are not any robots with tornados power with a huge disc, but if you dont have any weapon then that gives you lots more weight for armour. Its just finding the balance with what you want.
The last ip is that its usually not the most powerful bot that wins overall - its the most versatile. Unless its Aaron.
AJ tanto is 80kg and has 2 eteks, as they weigh 11kg each yes u could fit 4 LEM130s in I nearly did it (bar the money) and if u fitted the lems you would have the room to fit a linear actuator and build on a forklift,
its perfectly feasible
Youd never get the power of 4 LEM130s to the ground anyway, so its a waste of weight, and having 20mm Hardox is also a waste of weight when there is nothing currently in the combat field able to bend 10mm.
There is a lot you can do with 100kg...
2 LEM130s and 5mm hardox armour is good enough in my eyes...
having 20mm Hardox is also a waste of weight when there is nothing currently in the combat field able to bend 10mm.
thats the point, nothing will touch it, you call it a waste i call it protection Ive built a robot that will last for years and years
Craig, you could have 11mm of hardox, which still nothing can bend, and make better use out of the weight thats been dropped.
I would certainly not put 20mm of hardox on any bot I build...
(Message edited by kodster on November 20, 2007)
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