Stu and I had a discussion on this. He said that the forward hinged flippers are ineffective, but I countered that there have been successful forward hinged heavy weight robots, such as Firestorm, Mute, Cassius, Gravedigger, and V-Max. I still have my sentiment about forward hinged flippers, thats how I got into Robot Wars. I was flipping through channels, then I turned to the Space Channel and theres Gravedigger flipping Mortis. I am convinced that you can build a successful forward hinged flipper feather robot.