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    Lightweights


    Ad Infinitum - Alex M and W
    Anti-Virus - Kody Kunz

    Another Night at the Bar - Martijn Benschop
    Just a Little Baldur - Alex Holt



    Middleweights


    Scorpion Bite - Alex M and W
    Solstice - Kody Kunz

    Waiting for the Axe to Fall - Martijn Benschop
    Sith - Alex Holt


    Heavyweights


    IFHW - Alex M and W
    Wedginator Reborn - Kody Kunz

    Flick of the Wrist - Martijn Benschop
    Black Panther Queen - Alex Holt


    Superheavyweights


    Eurypterus - Alex M and W
    Red Flag - Kody Kunz

    Sheer Heart Attack - Martijn Benschop
    Red Knight - Alex Holt



    First Round

    Lightweights


    Ad Infinitum - Alex M and W
    Anti-Virus - Kody Kunz

    61-39% Ad Infinitum wins. Both of them specialize in lowness. Anti is faster, presumably

    slightly lower, but against a robot with defense on all sides, that really doesnt matter

    much. AI threatens a knockout to Anti-Virus, by flipping it on its side. Anti-Virus

    doesnt appear to have any bars or spikes to cause it to fall over, so it would likely

    just sit there. The bane of simple designs is that they get caught on things--walls,

    hazards, other robots, and dont have any moving parts to get them off. While Anti-Virus

    would probably push Ad Infinitum around for much of the match (and win for the percent of

    the time that it completely avoids getting flipped), the moment one flip occurs, its at a

    severe weakness at any orientation other than right-side up.


    Another Night at the Bar - Martijn Benschop
    Just a Little Baldur - Alex Holt

    91-9% Baldur wins. Its a compact, well-armored design that would be difficult to

    incapacitate. ANB devotes enough of its weapon energy to be able to damage the front and

    ends of this opponent. Baldurs actuator would probably break, but ANB is too unstable to

    effectively push Baldur, or have any offensive capactity if its weapon slows.


    Middleweights


    Scorpion Bite - Alex M and W
    Solstice - Kody Kunz

    57-43% Solstice wins. The weapon design is difficult for a weaker disc-spinner like SB to

    disable. Its likely to lose its weapon first. It would win in almost half of the

    matchups, because it has supurior wheelpower, and enough of a crumple zone on its front

    to survive impacts. It would push Solstice around once it slowed the weapon sufficiently.

    Solstice threatens more damage and a more likely knockout in a potential fight though,

    giving it a slight edge.



    Waiting for the Axe to Fall - Martijn Benschop
    Sith - Alex Holt

    51-49% Sith wins. Its pneumatic actuator would have little effect on the Axe, and would be

    weaker than advertized, due to the position of the jack. Axe also threatens an unusually

    strong drivetrain for a middleweight, making the pushing match very close. Siths primary

    advantage comes from its front leverage, making any head to head collision favorable. It

    would probably not take functional damage from the axe.


    Heavyweights


    IFHW - Alex M and W
    Wedginator Reborn - Kody Kunz

    82-18% IFHW wins. IFHW takes a lot of design aspects from Wedge of Doom, which is very

    effective against Wheely Big Cheese-esque designs like WR. It has a strong front, which is

    hard for WR to get around, and a leverage advantage on that front, along with better

    acceleration and control. The minority of times WR manages to get around the front though,

    its much more powerful flipper would give it the potential to juggle its

    slower-to-self-right opponent, and possibly threaten a knockout.



    Flick of the Wrist - Martijn Benschop
    Black Panther Queen - Alex Holt

    Wow, your heavyweight entries are very developed. They take a lot of successful aspects

    from real competitors. This would be a very dynamic fight.

    55-45% Black Panther Queen wins. Mostly due to better versatility. Flick would get the

    leverage first more than half the time, but following through would be difficult. Black

    Panther could continue attacking while being pushed from the front, and recover. I think

    this would be close; neither threatening a knockout, but Black Panther somewhat more able

    to control the fight, with its barrage of actuating weaponary.


    Superheavyweights


    Eurypterus - Alex M and W
    Red Flag - Kody Kunz

    64%-36% Red Flag wins. Heres an interesting fight. Eurypterus is low and sturdy, while

    Red Flag is mostly focused on its weapon. Both robots have similar front leverage spikes,

    which should present an interesting problem if theyre around the same height. Now

    normally, I would be very critical of Red Flags lack of invertibility as a weakness, but

    against a weaponless opponent in an arena without hazards or house robots, this would be

    difficult to capitalize on. The Flywheel will further stabilize it. I think this is one of

    those fights where the flywheel does most of the speaking; it probably cant incapacitate

    Eurypterus, but the hinged leverage devices on Eurys front present ripe targets to rip

    off. Theres no denying Eurypterus has an aggression advantage, but Red Flags offense

    seems to be the best defense.


    Sheer Heart Attack - Martijn Benschop
    Red Knight - Alex Holt

    51%-49% Sheer Heart Attack wins. I would have to see this one. This would be one of the

    best fights in the round. Both robots are bizarre, and threaten a KO. At first glance, Red

    Knights weapon seems to be impenetrable, but SHA is one of the few robots to bare just

    the right tool to neutralize it.

    SHA would come out ahead in any weapon-weapon contact, breaking the small flywheel (light

    by Superheavyweight standards) and leveraging itself under the shield. With a stronger

    drivetrain and sturdy weapon, it would push Red Knight around and deal possibly enough

    damage for a knockout, to that central hull. The percentage is close though, because Red

    Knight threatens a very early 1-hit knockout, if it manages to nick one of the exposed

    tracks of SHA with the flywheel--tearing it off.



    Well, lets look at the percents for this round! This tournament is too small for them to

    matter, but in future tournaments, the highest percentage drivers will determine the

    brackets.

    Alex Holt - 61.5%
    Alex M and W - 55.5%
    Kody Kunz - 44.5%
    Martijn Benschop - 38.5%

    Thats just one round though. Im going to change the tournament rules a bit. Since I had

    everyone fight one other person this round, I think Ill do a round-robin style, with

    everyone fighting someone else the next round. Then Ill tally the robots with the most

    points in each weight class, and the drivers with the most points.

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    Bah...ah well, I cant complain, Alex MW is rather more experienced at this than I am.

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    Okay, time for an analytical decision from me.

    Anti-Virus VS. Ad Infinitum

    I agree wholeheartedly with Nicks decision. This sounds like the Bad Attitude VS. Huggy Bear fight of Battlebots, and Huggy Bear came out on top. Plus Anti-Virus isnt as powerful as a lightweight Bad Attitude and Ad Infinitum is more powerful than a lightweight Huggy Bear...yup, Ill die here.

    Solstice VS. Scorpion Bite

    I dunno, Solstice isnt really low enough to effectively hit Scorpion Bite. I disagree (against my own team?! ) and say that Scorpion Bite would win.

    IFHW VS. Wedginator Reborn

    I disagree with one thing: Wedginator is easily able to get to the sides and flip, even with IFHWs wedges flanking the lifting forks. Even so, IFHW can just as easily get out of danger as well as in. IFHW will win.

    Eurypterus VS. Red Flag

    Yes, this is definitely a fight Red Flag would win. Theres nowhere for Eurypterus to get under but the disc, which should cause some big damage even if it doesnt shock him to death.

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    I have to disagree here. My speciality is in my lowness, and speed, so I should be able to get to your sides, get under, and slam you around.

    Also, I cant see a vertical spinner being very effective against a low to the ground bot like Eurypterus. Nightmare vs. Biohazard, anyone?

    Dont forget that the spiked-out wedges will drive Eurypterus into the disc if he tries to go after the sides. And even if he does, my (relatively weak) lifting skirts are designed to prevent any kind of wedge or lifting arm assault from back/rear sides. The only other way than approaching the disc would be to try and assault the front wedges from the other direction, by which time you actually get there I will be pointing the disc at you.

    As for the Nightmare VS. Biohazard fight, Biohazard would have been upended had it not been for the skirts. My disc would tear you to shreds, or rip off most of your panels and lifting arms instead of just tearing.

    Box rush me, I dare ya.

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    Okay, you got me there. But still all I have to do is keep the disc pointed at you, and you wont be able to move in without box-rushing me and risk immobilization.

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