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Thread: FRA Debate - Intelligent Design vs. Darwinian Evolution

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  2. A few quotes ......

    +1>intelligent design

    ...the odds against DNA assembling by chance are 10 000000>to the power of 40,000 to one [according to Fred Hoyle, Evolution from Space,1981]. This is true, but highly misleading. DNA did not assemble purely by chance. It assembled by a combination of chance and the laws of physics. Without the laws of physics as we know them, life on earth as we know it would not have evolved in the short span of six billion years. The nuclear force was needed to bind protons and neutrons in the nuclei of atoms; electromagnetism was needed to keep atoms and molecules together; and gravity was needed to keep the resulting ingredients for life stuck to the surface of the earth.
    --Victor J. Stenger

    To explain the origin of the DNA/protein machine by invoking a supernatural Designer is to explain precisely nothing, for it leaves unexplained the origin of the Designer. You have to say something like God was always there, and if you allow yourself that kind of lazy way out, you might as well just say DNA was always there, or Life was always there, and be done with it. --Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker : Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe without Design

    ... rarity by itself shouldnt necessarily be evidence of anything. When one is dealt a bridge hand of thirteen cards, the probability of being dealt that particular hand is less than one in 600 billion. Still, it would be absurd for someone to be dealt a hand, examine it carefully, calculate that the probability of getting it is less than one in 600 billion, and then conclude that he must not have been dealt that very hand because it is so very improbable. --John Allen Paulos, Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and its Consequences



    (Message edited by woody on April 03, 2006)


  3. Why dont you make a Big Bang and implode yerself outta here, instead of causing another argument, which is bound to happen now.

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  5. That was the most immature comment i have ever heard!

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    No, no I dont want to start another petty argument about me saying something to show how both of you are right then get moaned at.

    Naff off. Just naff off, alright? Nothing you said showed how they were right; you were just saying something completely retarded and stupid. And Im not moaning at you because of what you said; Im moaning at you because youre still on this forum.

    Sorry everyone, but this needed to be said. Now, where were we?

    Ah, yes, evolution. Very nice, Ewan

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