and if i posted half the grief i get from people on msn for giving advice, this thread would be twice the size. Dont know why i bother half the time.

Just a reminder, if you dont have 10 years engineering experience, 5 years practical fighting robot experience, 9 GCSEs, & alevels, an HNC in health and safety, with NEBOSH certification, a degree in mechanical engineering, nearly 200 satified customers with over 50 machines built, a 100% safety record, £1,000,000 personal liability insurance against accidents, bad service, and advice, (and a lot more common sense than many of the people I know,) then please sit back down and dont snap at me on msn then log off so i cant reply.

end of rant.