i keep hearing of powerful spinners like omricon (I think tahts how u spell it), horizon and pimp 2 etc. there was also one i heard that had a ev warrior geared up 1:2 or something. One spinner out here named basilisk had a ev warrior driving a blade and at 12 volts was awesome power with the 2 kg steel bar. NOw he is planninn a mini mag motor and whyachi spinner gearbox in it!!!!. This was going to be his lightweight weopon drive as well. Should be interesting. Glad we finally got polycarb screening on out backyard shed arena.