The only reason you havent seen it fight is because everyone hates it. It has faught, once, but only does demos now as its too nasty. If you want to start a mines bigger game of verbal tennis Geoff, I will do it after the machine meet. only 5kj now that is an empty threat, sorry.

Stu, the flippers not finished yet, but that doesnt mean its a vapourbot. e-mail mario for confirmation its real. Likewise, enough people have seen Tantrum, its not a wooden model with silver painted trim.

I was making a point, not bragging about supposed vapourbots, if you give me, Ed, (and Geoff if hes being serious) an extra 1.6kg, you will kill the featherweight class. Its already getting stupid but it is getting towards the limits of what can be done, change the rules now and weve a long way we can go before we hit limits again.

Ill put my money where my mouth is here, give me 13.6kg and Ill put a LEM in Tantrum 2.