Gary, you would porobably have to call the AA, I would just get in and sort it.
Experience.
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Gary, you would porobably have to call the AA, I would just get in and sort it.
Experience.
Quote: Any robot that deliberately attacks the link would be disqualified,
Although agreeing with most of Rogers veiws, this is a daft statement!
How the hell would you judge this?
Is a bots link at the back?..ours is, but is everybodys?..is there a rule outlawing links at the sides or even the front?
Do you have to go round all your opponents, pre match, finding out where their links are so you cant attack that bit?
No...fights happen...you go for it, and try to win. Granted you DO NOT annialate a disabled robot (at RW yes but not live events) but to judge on an opponenent deliberately attacking the link is impossible, in the heat of a fight..Your disk went straight in and ripped out my link I can hear some teams crying!....wish driving was that precise!!
Links flying out are usually bad design or bad luck!!!
Tom
The simple answer would be, if you pull out another robots link, you forfeit the fight. Roboteers will just have to be careful to immobilise their opponents without removing the link.
This may not be the correct solution, though. Theres a balance to be found between the full-on combat that (we think) the crowds want and the insurance problems.
Let me see, if I make my link realy loose, and it falls out realy easy.......
Rules on attacking links, the madness brink, i think.
Combat Robots are by their very nature extremely dangerous things, more so when you introduce the even more dangerous human factor.
Consider this, by putting lights on to indicate whether a Robot is live in the pits would assume that you have accepted that there will be cases when this could happen (very scary).
Simple rule : Only Event technicians touch links. (Realy big full stop) The rest falls into place.
All the events Ive been to have required me to test the failsafe in the pits, so Ive had to have the links in.
You cant say dont touch the link or you loose. Its impossible!
What happens if a robot is flying through the air (has been know to happen after a flip), lands on another robot (also been known to happen) and has its link door crushed/removed? Would two robots be disqualified for taking part in the link removal? Also I dont think the audience would appreciate the fight stopping every time the link is hit accidentally - it would slow everything down and destroy the flow of the fight.
Given that an LED is simple this is all getting very complex. You are now looking at special tools (a 10 meter boat hook), standardised coverplates and specific mounting points all in the place of a small LED.
TOO MUCH RED TAPE!
The LED is an indicator - not a safety device!
Its simple, accept the rules agreed between the EO and the insurers that allow the event to go ahead, go to the event and fight, OR stay at home and play with your robot in the garage.
How about I fit the LED, go to all of the Roaming Robots & FRA events and just miss your event instead? Sounds fair to me!
There is no chance on earth that I am re-working Mute to adhere to a stupid rule that involves bits of string and boat hooks just for one event. If the FRA tells me to fit a bit of string and use a boat hook then I will do it otherwise Ill stick with the LED.
You are arrogant thinking that you know more than the collective knowledge of everyone else on here just because you have been making robots slightly longer than everyone else. There are a lot of very intelligent people on here and you float around like you are better than them - trying to dictate rules! WAKE UP!
Rant over! Time for coffee!
P.S. I dont have a garage anyway.
Mute is a perfect example of the difficulty of imposing a plate in a fixed location rule. Low body height, most of which is covered in moving parts (main and rear flipper) so where would the be able to fit a standardised link plate? If it was on the side somewhere (just about the only possible place on a robot such as Mute or Razer) then side on attacks would be ruled out and the fights would be impossible, as youd have to go for the front, then if the robot turned broadside-on then the attacker would have to swing away etc etc.
Ive a lot of respect for Rogers knowledge and all the things he does as regards roboteering but I do think that a rule about a standard plate, a rope loop, and disallowing attacks on the link is unworkable.
-- Kev
Roger, I am very impressed with your insurers being so knowledgable about live robot combat event safety. I have had great difficulty finding insurers who have the first idea about robot safety issues and hence most of them tend to stay well away from it. Who are they and where do they get their technical advice from?
Based on all the suggested rule changes you have mentioned above will there be any changes to the RW rule set at Yoevil?
Andrew
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