@ cris, maybe if I let the flipper run unrestricted that may be the case. Yes, it was restricted during Heat D. Also, the way it fires prevents robots from being throw like wbc. Wbc has a really long travel of its flipper arm, which results in a 90 degree end position of the flipper, which throws the robot further away, but not as high as Gravity does. My flipper ends in about a 45 degrees angle, which results in higher flips. And wbc is undrivable. It would loose every 1 on 1 fight against a decent robot.