Yeah I never meant it to be a spinner/non-spinner debate. I meant in terms of public exposure (no pun intended) the beetle stuff does quite well so having an "easy category" may encourage the hoards of 8 yr olds at the events. Would also aid creativity I think. I don't want the world to be without spinners lol, just think as with model car clubs etc. we could do with the FRA coming up with some way of dividing events beginner/experienced or summat.