What not to do!!!!!

[Eventorizon]

There is bollarads around the arena which are meant to keep spectators 1m+ away from the arena however these tend to creep in throughout the day. I am not particularly worried for non-spinners for the spinners I usually do a walk around before the fight. Still I Think we are slightly off topic. The 1m vs 1.5m gap behind polycarb and steel is somewhat moot compared to a mesh fence.

Steve

I agree. How did the Feather event go? I saw the damage to Mr Mangle.

[geeza]

Ceri, It won't matter, if a member of the public is badly injured or killed by a robot it will reach back to the insurance companies. And that will be that they will not insure any events. We all have the same responsibility for safety, wherever we are.

[typhoon_driver]

I could sign a contract that says I could go out and kill someone. Doesn't mean that I won't be held liable for my actions if I followed through.

In my eyes if someone were to be injured or killed this would fall under gross negligence which would be a willful disregard for the safety of those in the audience. You wouldn't have a leg to stand on to defend yourself as the rules are well stated here and have been previously followed with regards to arena standards.

The event should have never taken place. If that is the arena that's been provided then you don't run the event until a proper arena is in place.

[psychostorm]

Completely missed the point of my post. Thanks. Yes, every person has a responsibility to Health & Safety. I'm not for anybody waiving responsibilities.

You wouldn't have a leg to stand on to defend yourself as the rules are well stated here and have been previously followed with regards to arena standards.

The arena rules on this site aren't legally binding though.
Legally, they are recommendations of safety under threat of the volunteers not turning up. Doesn't mean anyone has to obey them.

Legally, there is nothing the FRA can do to stop this happening anywhere. The ball is entirely in Jonno's court.

Unless Robot Combat was listed as a sport by Sport England with the FRA listed as an official national body.

[grant_ploughbot]

Completely missed the point of my post. Thanks. Yes, every person has a responsibility to Health & Safety. I'm not for anybody waiving responsibilities.

The arena rules on this site aren't legally binding though.
Legally, they are recommendations of safety under threat of the volunteers not turning up. Doesn't mean anyone has to obey them.

Legally, there is nothing the FRA can do to stop this happening anywhere. The ball is entirely in Jonno's court.

Unless Robot Combat was listed as a sport by Sport England with the FRA listed as an official national body.

The thing is that the FRA rules are insured, and all of is EO's state to our insurance con pairs that we follow the GRa rules and arena safety guildlines to be able to get insurance. So it is legally binding in that respect.

With regards to going to Australia multiple times, we had to go to Abu Dhabi 3 times before hand, and they came to us twice to inspect the arena and see how it all works and gets setup. Alan has also been to Singapore to check the arena being built for his event later in the month. It's all well and good to accept a job because they offer you a decent amount of money, but if they don't have the extra money to pay for making sure the event is safe then we always have to turn it down.

Also, whoever's insurance is being used at that event, the insurance company will always look for who's responsible. That will always track back to the "experts" on that field which regardless of what anyone says will be Jonno. I'm really not trying to jump on the situation or make things worse, but these are the things we need to consider every week at Robo Challenge now and it only takes one case of negligence to destroy our business and years of hard work, aswel as someone else's life.

[typhoon_driver]

yeah you're right, what was the point of your post?

[psychostorm]

Legally, there is nothing the FRA can do to stop this happening anywhere.

[shakesc]

If at the end of the day my robot gets mashed in the arena its all part of parcel of the sport/hobby. I still duck when a robot hits the polycarb.
Precedence has been set in the safety measures held by all EO's. If injury occurs and that precedence hasn't been followed I would not like to be defending that position.
Its not that different to a "state of the art" defence

The headline will be "fighting robot kills/seriously injures specatator" that would effect everyone, not just RW/RR.

I'm rather thankful the India incident didn't make it beyond the community