Ok well, cue the next surplus special as per the CAD Department aboves specs. Beetleweight, rammy pusher bot, two 25mm 12V 30:1 motors that everyone's using and so on, Banebots wheels, hub adapters bla bla. Can't dream up a name yet. The motors and stuff are on the way, dunno whether to get another sabertooth. I also wanna stay away from lipo batteries as I don't understand them lol. Any suggestions/thoughts etc welcome as ever.