thats why I say its grey. From what I saw it tried to self right repeatedly and couldnt so I grabbed them. The aim was to keep hold and drive both machines in the pit and get jammed in there however they came loose and got out. Mobility wasn't shown for over 50 seconds whether thats because they couldn't selfright or were in the pit, on their back stuck etc my issue was that the clock was never started. Judges didn't feel that it should be started because it was a flipper. If it was the other way round and venom struggled to self right the clock would be ticking down. As soon as Venom is on its back they did start the clock in all my battles.

This is why I feel for competition battles it should be nice simple rules that everyone can follow and measure as it used to be. For entertainment shows do whats fun.