Team Saint Robot Builds

**Niels - Team K.a.L.M.** · 1st May 2016, 07:41

The point might be; "Because it can be done."

But it won't be very effective if at all.
Could be fun, but I'd suggest using the idea and build a RC hovercraft to play around with.

**daveimi** · 1st May 2016, 21:01

That was all I needed to hear

Variety is the spice of life.

**Eventorizon** · 3rd May 2016, 08:52

A giant 110kg + pneumatic Octapod... this will be so cool when its complete!
Or is this not for combat?

**craig_colliass** · 15th May 2016, 19:20

Just put this here as the second video in the walker project.

The project is going OK at the moment and the leg configuration seems to be OK for now.

They are made of 15mm HDPE, stuff I had left over from making all the wheels for Gabriel. At 15mm it is stiff enough to support the 27kg.

I'm now going to be looking at making the other 4 legs and sorting out brackets for the robot. the legs will be fitted on a backbone style chassis with a platform on top for the compressors and v/v gear. I'm not sure how to do that yet but lets get the legs done first!

**Eventorizon** · 5th May 2016, 10:17

I think the 2 DoF rule s there to prevent shuffle bots, which it should be IMO. But yes its a shame there are no walkers. I have a few ideas but no money to test them out sadly.

If you can get it working properly though it will be amazing!

**craig_colliass** · 15th May 2016, 22:11

Each leg has 2 separate actuators, operated by 2 separate valves! if those valves were operated by Pixies would that make it OK?

Trust me anyone who says this dose not comply, will only be confirming that this (in my view ridiculous) rule was only put in place to stop innovation and diversity in the robot scene.

Anyone who wishes to stand before me and tell me this is not compliant with the WALKER RULE is a very brave man!!

**Eventorizon** · 5th May 2016, 14:57

Yep, same goes for the giant Attacknids, they don't count as walkers despite their complexity. As you know though, Pilgrim, the Attacknids and shufflers are fundamentally cam based, its just what comes after the cam that is different. While I would look at Pilgrim and the Attacknids and call them walkers, when it comes to the rules we can't have exploitable rules that would allow shufflebots to gain a massive advantage. Yep, its complicated...

**maddox10** · 5th May 2016, 19:57

Oeps.

Pilgrim is a Strandbeest. A cam based shuffler.

**Rapidrory** · 6th May 2016, 07:22

In antweights, almost anything without wheels passes as a walker and gets 50% weight allowance, and yet still almost no one makes them; I won the 'best walker' award at a previous AWS because I entered the only walker! So even if the rules did count cam based shuffle bots as walkers and gave a big weight allowance, I don't think there would be a sudden explosion of them.

we can't have exploitable rules that would allow shufflebots to gain a massive advantage

I don't see why not? If you're putting the effort in to building a walking mech, you're accepting a hit on mobility to gain extra weight. Even a simple shuffle mech is difficult to do well and and light weight enough to give you weight spare for weaponry. Even if other weight classes went with the extreme of ant rules with 50% extra for a basic shuffle bot, I think we'd see one or two shufflers which would be a good thing, but I doubt any of them would be winning an event any time soon..