I have kept out of this Pneumatic safety issues thread up until now, first off because it shouldnt really have been started cos its pointless and going nowhere and secondly its just pathetic with all the arguing and twisting peoples words etc.
Im only posting this now because its quite obvious a few comments have been pretty much aimed at me.

Quote Originally Posted by Gasbot
So just because a ram passes gas it shouldn't be tested - that is quite frankly idiotic.
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Quote Originally Posted by maddox10
The don't want to do is plain stupidity. If anybody working with pneumatics (or any high energy storage) acts like that, we have a potential Darwin Award contender.
Its quite clear its aimed at me beacuse I was the one that said I thought it was pointless pressure testing the ram, I said id get the full system tested but i just thought the ram was pointless as it isnt been tested in the way its going to be used.
As the EO's have said and Kane has said these machines are being used in an arena made to contain anything that might go wrong with the robots. CO2 bottles should be checked/tested/certified because they are being used outside the arena. And also like has been said before, the way your carrying on about it each individual component would have to be retested every fight.
Plus we went to thorite to get some fittings, if you tell the guy what there being used for he will tell you that they are not designed to be used in the way we are wanting to use them, and if they fail while being used in the way we are using them they or the brand are not responsible for any damage or injury. So as soon as you put them in your robot and in the arena any test certification that off the shelf parts have is invalid. Also with off the shelf rams and valves, mainly low pressure stuff if you tell them your using CO2 they say you cant. There designed to run compressed air.
So really even your off the shelf parts arnt covered.
No matter how much you argue about it you cant get round the fact that we are pretty much using these systems in a way that they shouldnt be used so even though in an ideal situation we would all have tested and certified systems the fact is as soon as your robots in the arena and that door is closed all that certification and the paper work means nothing.
I will have my system tested for my own piece of mind, basically so I know im not going to show up to an event turn the gas on and it leak.
Also James mentioned in an earlier post about pressure switches to show if the gas is on. I have a pressure switch for flow anyway, We had been playing around with the idea just as a cool feature.


Mario I dont want to get into a big argument, Your rams are proven to work and stand up to the pressures and punishment, You build good rams and thats why people use them, I expected people who havent built pneumatic robots or people that dont own a pneumatic robot to complain about this stuff, It happens all the time when sombody doesnt have what sombody else does. Both this subject and the lipo subject are quite similar in a way, They are been pushed and brought to more peoples attention by people that dont run pneumatics or lipos and people that personally dont feel confident with pneumatics or lipos, and once the subject grabs a few peoples attention more people jump on it, Its not just this community/forum it happens in almost any hobby/competition/sport. but even with them complaining I wouldnt have expected it from you because your doing exactly what im doing pretty much, If anything we should have been siding together but you was the first one to start quoting rules in the previous thread, but its ok making it sound like all of your rams and custom components are fully tested, but truth is there not really are they, Do all of your rams and other custom pneumatic components individually independently get tested and certified and released with certification papers to everyone that buys one of your rams? No. So when it comes to the person with one of your rams going through tech check and I say show me the paperwork that goes with that ram to prove its been tested and passed to be used at whatever pressure they are running. What happens then?
(I'd obviously never do that, but if people keep pushing thats whats going to have to happen)

We need to help the hobby/sport progress, These are things that could potentially hold us all back.

Hey cant we all just get along