Have too see what 'Dave' say then, but till that point, all this is just thoughts till we get something back
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Have too see what 'Dave' say then, but till that point, all this is just thoughts till we get something back
if anyone's serious about this film a couple of fights at the next rr event, slam in some fancy editing intros etc mix up a couple of these fights with a pit walk around/roboteer interview and some b roll footage of the crowd etc, lay over some fight commentary afterwards. now you'll have something half decent or better that you can show dave as a sort of pilot.
The fancy things are maybe something PJ and I could work on? We are both audio/video engineers respectively, we did have a chat many moons ago about some collaboration possibilities too. Haven't mentioned this to him though, but if he's up for it and someone has the footage then i'm game.
I can't really go to any RR events, but if someone wants to take decent footage from a decent amount of cameras I can definitely edit it.
Time to play devils advocate (because that's the kind of guy I am)
-Whoever's event you go to you will need permission to film and send on the footage and have some form of agreement in place as to what happens if DAVE came back and said let's do it. Anyone considered this?
-What makes what you are suggesting different and interesting? Robot wars was done to death by the end. Obviously it didn't help that the tv channels messed it around showing it at different times etc but the show was becoming rather repetitive.
First one is no problem, its something we'd have to discuss the whichever EO took the idea up. A few options off the top of my head would be technical advisory positions or possibly arena providers on a rental/hire basis. Still plenty of money to be made for them.
Secondly, what is it that sells the concept now compared to back then? RR managed to book and sell out that section O2 something like 9 times and someone at Dave obviously thought about it at some point when they brought back the old series to their channel. That is something else that can be discussed with the EOs.
This is the kind of thing I did when I was working in Canada, only with music rather than video, still have all the old contract templates kicking around somewhere.
What about that Killer Robots show? Anyone catch that?
They (Sharp Entertainment) effectively filmed the RoboGames HW Champs (In the USA) got that guy for Mythbusters to host and narrate it and sold it as a 1 hour show to Discovery (Science Channel)
Robot Wars the TV series has gone (at least for now, it'll soon gain nostalgia value and be back, but it wasn't that long ago it left) but why not explore different concepts? Much like these guys have.
From what I gather the gig was commissioned by The Science Channel, but I guess someone still brought all those things together.
I think we could easily put together a short promo between us (Thanks Tony) as plenty of people in this community have AV skills.
Otherwise I know a TV production company a film Production company plenty of independent film companies.
We also need the content though. As controversial as it may be I think the UK HW champs wouldn't be fitting. It's already heavily theatre-ised (that's not a bad thing, just wouldn't translate well to TV, plus no producer would want to touch it)
There are no spinners (yes yes yes, but look at what Killer Robots did with the inclusion of spinners, lots of slooooow mooooo)
And English crowds just aren't into stuff as much as US crowds.
It's a bit short-notice, but the UK FW Champs may be a better bet. TheGadgetShow is huge, I am sure the crowds around the battles will also be huge. Spinners everywhere, lots of damage, plenty of people willing to demonstrate their machines, loads of footage could be taken in the pits, etc. Footage for a 30 minute or even hour-long one-off wouldn't be hard to produce at all, like the RoboGames event.
All you need is an HD camera or two and some coordination.
I do video editing, not as a living (I'm 16) but I have done various jobs; many paid. 4+ years using Sony Vegas. My dad has been a music producer (and player) for 4 decades.
Between the community, there's no reason why we couldn't make something presentable.
and i have an ipad which is almost equivalent to a filmography degree
and my axe!
By all means give it a go and see if something comes of it. I'm just going to err on the side of caution when it comes to getting tv companies involved as I remember them being a pain in the arse
A particular memory - Gary please don't hit the side of the arena again as we are already behind filming.......yeah simple controlling a machine that could nacker the arena if any part of it touched the sidewall........
Interesting enough point. No-one ever considers it.Originally Posted by typhoon_driver
Time to play devils advocate (because that's the kind of guy I am
-What makes what you are suggesting different and interesting? Robot wars was done to death by the end. Obviously it didn't help that the tv channels messed it around showing it at different times etc but the show was becoming rather repetitive.
Robot Wars was repetitive as well as expensive. 20 episodes at £500,000 each? Would you spend £10 million pounds on a series? The BBC doesn't spends more than 300 grand on saturday primetime no less.
It's not really enough to say we'll film the FWs instead of the heavies. The programme needs a format shift, to be much shorter in season length & to be as cost effective as possible (Not necessarily the same as cheap - though that is a factor.)
Well as much as I see event organisers liking this, there is the restriction of where it the event is. A studio rental agreement comes with the filming of a studio surround in the contract, the likes of Gadget Show live/NEC or O2 arena still would have to have a contract.
Has anyone actually asked for UKTV for a commissioning brief? uktv.commissioning(at)uktv.co.uk - I'm guessing you usually don't have to mention the programme details.
For the record, I do think the featherweights are the way to go forward. They won't load as fast as Jonno's arena but they are light, an easier accessible weight category and have more recent Teelevision time as well as the interesting duality of being a hjighlight of the last wars yet not the focus of it.
Should we need trials, for TV purposes, the obstacles can be light & cheap. The FW championships could probably make 8 half hour eps.
Was that after the grand final or the first breakage?
You should have said 'You try try controlling a petrol powered sledgehammer from 15 feet away, let's see you do better!'
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