ride on powertool drag racer

**xtreme** · 22nd September 2011, 22:57

What wild bunch team you help out?

**Kenny** · 22nd September 2011, 23:20

Originally Posted by mr_turbulence

Agree with what tom sais... at the moment PTDR is way to corporate... it should be about redneck style chainsaw powered scooters etc... not how much money/how many sponsors you have...

tom- i reckon you could make a ptdr run a 1/4 faster then kennys camaro lol

totally agree bracket racing would allow 10x to the people to race and have ago at winning without having fastest

**robotwars** · 23rd September 2011, 08:59

thats what has always put me off getting involved...i mean what engineer wouldnt want to bolt some chainsaws to a go kart !!

Ive never built one because it is what you say, spend the most money and your going to win !

**webby** · 23rd September 2011, 18:33

Originally Posted by xtreme

What wild bunch team you help out?

ball breaker

do u?

**xtreme** · 23rd September 2011, 19:46

Webby was you at Shakey at the hot rod drags at the weekend? if you was I was probably talking to you lol. Ball Breakers a nice looking Slingshot. Impressive on the track too, Runs 9s doesnt it? Iv kinda got a thing for FED's. You cant got wrong with a slingshot or an old skool Fuel Altered like pure hell and winged express. We have owned a fair few race cars that you will have seen racing before.

Bracket racing is the way forward to attract new builders and racers I think. Sombody can build somthing in there shed for next to nothing and still have a chance at winning.
There wouldnt be drag racing in this country at all now if it wasnt for bracket racing. When you look at drag racing in the 50s when it had just started to become more popular, everyone was using 30s cars that they had stored away during the war and with the same engines just doing home modifications they were all about the same speed so it made for interesting heads up racing and anyone could join in and have a shot at winning, it would be nice if it was still like that but its not. So without bracket racing the average guy doesnt have a chance at winning so they dont bother entering, hence why theres so many bracket racing classes in drag racing today. Power tool drag racing will have to go in the same directon as normal drag racing to get more people building and racing.

Me and kenny and a few other lads are probably going to be running Power tool drag racer type cars all year round at various events at real race meetings next year. But were using engines that probably wouldnt be accepted in ptdr. There 4 stroke engines that are used in alot of things and even used in augers but mainly 2 man augers. There is a single person auger that uses the engine but its really old and you cant get them anywhere nowadays so we probably wouldnt be allowed to use them. Infact they used the engine in an old stone cutter saw but I cant find pictures or info about it anywhere on the net. So because they dont use the engine anymore in powertools and its nearly impossible to find info about them on the net. Technically there within the PTDR rules but I dont think we would get away with running them at Silverline PTDR events. There commonly used on lawn mowers and 2 man augers, small generators, whacker plates and water pumps etc.

**big_nipper** · 23rd September 2011, 19:48

Like the Idea of Bracket Racing since we have full torque limiting on each Angle grinder, repeatable times would be very easy. Guess we would soon get banned though.

Seriously though the big teams are not very fast yet (or at least last year) so the competition is wide open. It always makes it easier with more money, but it can be done with alot less, just needs different thinking and smarter engineering.

We just did it for a bit of fun, but we still want to win

If we beat just one petrol powered one we will be happy.

**Mouldy** · 23rd September 2011, 21:50

No reason you'd get banned... The people who do better in real drag racing run automatics that aren't that fast... Just put there foot down and keep it down until the end so they keep consistent to there dial-in time... As Tom said, it only becomes difficult when you need to work out if your running to fast and need to work out when to let of the loud pedal

**xtreme** · 24th September 2011, 01:15

Repeatable times would be easy but you could still loose it on reaction time, and even with the slightest bit of wind can change your ET enough to make you loose a race so you would have to know if to apply more throttle or back off to get your time back in line. Some races are won and lost by as little as 0.001 of a second. all you have to do is go 0.001 of a second quicker than your dial in and youv lost.
Say for example you get within 0.5 of a second of your dial in time but your reaction time is 1.2 seconds and your opponents runs within 1 second of his dial in but gets a reaction of 0.5 seconds, They have won the race by 0.2 seconds.

You have to start thinking about things that you wouldnt think about usually.
Wind direction, this could speed you up or slow you down easily.
Tyre pressure, slightly less pressure in your tyres causes rolling resistance and more inflated tyres effectively changes your gearing.
Wear on the engine/motor, Quite obvious really
Even the slightest bit of weight. Somthing as simple as having lunch, and amount of fuel in the tank can make a differance.
It sounds stupid, but if you get a few of these things happen at once it can make a big difference, Lower tyre pressure, more weight and a head wind, That might be half a second lost on your run. half a second is a huge amount.

As soon as you get a few guys running consistant times it really gets interesting.