How could I Improve pt 2

**joey_picus** · 12th January 2011, 02:05

viewtopic.php?f=201&t=2127

My case is rested :P

**Sparkey98** · 12th January 2011, 02:10

I have my first bot somewhere..........on my old compaq, hold on. (me and my friends have done this stuff since 03 but never discovered the online comunites, we had everything done IRL

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**andrewj** · 14th January 2011, 23:55

Jack: That is looking much better! I'm not good with the Team Cosmos calculator either, but I did a quick calculation for a 1000mm x 100mm x 18mm Hardox bar (which weighed about 14.5kgs) at 1500rpm, but it only came out at about 15kJ, which isn't that great. If you doubled the speed to 3000rpm, you would get about 60kJ, which sounds good to me. I guess it depends whether you want more power or a faster spin-up time.

Cory: Cosmic Revolution is coming along nicely. If you follow Joey's latest suggestions it should be quite good.

**death robotics** · 15th January 2011, 08:31

OK finalized version of Shield of Gondolin (Still suprised Kody hasnt recognized the name yet)

Shield of Gondolin
Weight: 100kg
Shape: Storm 2, a box with wedges on the front and sides, but its swapped, as the flat back is now the front
Colour: Black, with blood spattered red all over, and a picture of a dragon on the baseplate
Dimensions: Height 25cm Width: 65cm Length: 105cm without disc
Drive: 2x 24v S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 4x 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: 2 Storm 2 style wheels situated at the back were the original front wedge went
Armour: 6mm Titanium
Speed: 10mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm at the back 5mm elsewhere
Weapon: 259 style flywheel with 4 teeth on it powered by a 25.9v S28-400 Magmotor at 4000rpm
Shrimech: Disc will pop it back over
Strength: Bloody good weapon
Weakness: Dunno
BIO: A new design for 2011
Win/loss ratio: N/A

So the modifications are:
Armour reduced to 6mm Titanium to save weight
Only 2 magmotors instead of 4
4 battlepacks instead of 7
Speed reduced to 10mph

Also, the full body flipper/Achilles clone idea might become a serperate robot

**death robotics** · 15th January 2011, 08:48

Ok i want to give hammer and Nailz 2 an omega revamp, possibly under the name Hammerlet (5 quid to who got the
joke :P )

Heres the stats of the (What i now call fail) bot

http://strickenone.proboards.com/index. ... thread=770

Also im not sure what to do with Curse of the Deep, either a rebuild or scale down or retirement

Heres the stats http://teamzlayerz.proboards.com/index. ... 158&page=1

All advice welcome

17th January 2011, 21:14

Hammer & Nails looks good to me Lian, but if you want to revamp it I'd remove one of the axes, personally I don't see the need for 2

And I'd keep Curse of the Deep just for that nice CAD, it'll probably do better over here than it did on ARC

And if anyone wouldn't mind looking at Vertigo here, been a while since I wrote out FRA-style stats and I think the pneumatics in particular may be off....

VERTIGO

BODY SHAPE: Box with 60* wedge at front and angled rear ala Tornado. The sides are sloped at 45*

WEIGHT: 100kg

DIMENSIONS (L X W X H): 80cm x 75cm x 20cm

COLOUR: See CAD

LOCOMOTION: 4 x internal wheels, made of aluminium with unrethane tyres. Each is exposed from the top and bottom and is 22cm in diameter

GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 at the wedge, 8mm at sides and 10mm at rear

DRIVE MOTORS: 2 x LEMCO-130 lynch motors running @ 48v

DRIVE BATTERIES: 4 x NiCad battlepacks at 12v in series

SPEED: 18mph

TURNING CIRCLE: 0 metres

BODY ARMOUR: 4mm hardox monoque, flipper/top panel is
6mm.

CHASSIS: 4mm hardox monocoque. The removable panel is the top one.

WEAPON 1: The whole top panel is a full pressure flipper, powered by a 100mm ram @ 725psi from a 3kg co2 bottle, providing plenty of flips and a lot of power, similar power in fact to the modern Kronic the Wedgehog.

SRIMECH: The robot is invertible, but the flipper can be used to right it if needs be.

STRENGTHS: Powerful weaponry, tough armour

THEME SONG: Bodies by Drowning Pool

**joey_picus** · 17th January 2011, 21:25

It's spelt 'monocoque' ;P but other than that I can't see any real problems* with it, nice work

the same goes for the improved Drumblebee (which I can't be bothered to make a second post about, heh)

*having had a second glance I have noticed that you're lacking a bit in battery power - you probably do have enough weight to change to a pair of (or even three) 48v packs in parallel to give more capacity, so that won't be an issue

17th January 2011, 21:43

I spelt it wrong then right! *facepalm*

Thanks Joey, that shall be changed

**death robotics** · 19th January 2011, 18:35

[quote=super_sporty]Hammer & Nails looks good to me Lian, but if you want to revamp it I'd remove one of the axes, personally I don't see the need for 2

And I'd keep Curse of the Deep just for that nice CAD, it'll probably do better over here than it did on ARC

[quote]

Hammer and nails i think does need a rebuild and i think Curse of the Deep should lose a couple of kg due to the fact
SHW get almost no attention really, i dont want my bots to sit there gathering dust

Also the full body flipper has arrived, with more detailed flipper stats

Empty Inside
Shape: Storm 2, a box with wedges on the front and sides, with a rounded back
Colour: Camo, with shades of red
Dimensions: Height 25cm Width: 65cm Length: 105cm
Drive: 2x 24v S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 5x 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks.
Locomotion: 2 Storm 2 style wheels
Armour: 6mm titanium
Speed: 12mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm all over thanks to Titanium skirting, 5mm with out though
Weapon:An Achilles style rear-hinged flipper,which is attached from the back and goes all the way down the front to the bottom of the wedge. powered by a 1000pi 2.5kg C02 tank, with 2 70mm bore 300mm stroke rams which power the flipper. Can flip up to 300kg and can lift up to 400kg, much like Achilles itself, it is a full body flipper
Scrimech: The flipper of course
Strength: Powerful weapon
Weakness: Dunno
BIO: Another new design for 2011
Win/loss ratio: N/A
rated I for: This bot is in the hands of an Idiot

19th January 2011, 21:13

Empty Inside

^ EMO!!!!!! :P jks

Shape: Storm 2, a box with wedges on the front and sides, with a rounded back
Colour: Camo, with shades of red
Dimensions: Height 25cm Width: 65cm Length: 105cm

^ All good

Drive: 2x 24v S28-400 Magmotors, powered by 5x 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks.

^ This is fine, I'm not sure if you need that many batteries but I'm sure that's enough power

Locomotion: 2 Storm 2 style wheels

^ Again this should be ok if you're thinking of a Merlin-esque set-up with 2 wheels at the front, I'd make that clear in the stats though.

Armour: 6mm titanium
Speed: 12mph

^ This is fine

Ground Clearance: 0mm all over thanks to Titanium skirting, 5mm with out though

^ You need to state the ground clearance behind the skirts, and also say where the skirts are, which you have done but I'm not sure you mean there's a skirt on the front and back as well?

Weapon:An Achilles style rear-hinged flipper,which is attached from the back and goes all the way down the front to the bottom of the wedge. powered by a 1000pi 2.5kg C02 tank, with 2 70mm bore 300mm stroke rams which power the flipper. Can flip up to 300kg and can lift up to 400kg, much like Achilles itself, it is a full body flipper

^ Seems fine apart from the last sentence; 1) I'm sure it's more powerful than you've stated and 2) Specify full body flipper, is it just the top panel or the whole shell?

Otherwise nice design Lian

As for Hammer & Nails and Curse of the Deep, it's up to you of course, why do you think H&N needs a rebuild though? and I'd keep a SHW around, tournaments crop up here and there and it's always handy to have one

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