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  1. #161
    humm... interesting
    2kg of rubber is a lot to loose, wonder how legal they were at the end? schumachers were balder than right said fred. As far as I know, nobody has been disqualified recently for overbald tyres. (overbald??)
    thanks for the info, very surprised but makes perfect sence.

    As to freezing engine specs...
    How about capping revs and introducing air restrictors? By far the best way to cap power and reduce costs (cost increases exponentially with revs) oh wait, toro rosso have this alread. What was wrong with rev limited v10s and restrictors i dont know, they must be cheaper than 20,000rpm v8s

    (Message edited by jamesb on August 13, 2006)

  2. #162
    GP Masters results and sadly no British walk-over :sad: but a new winner: EDDIE CHEEVER

    GP Masters Silverstone
    1: Eddie Cheever
    2: Eric van der Poele
    3: Christian Danner
    4: Hans Stuck
    5: Alex Caffi
    6: Riccardo Patrese
    7: Pierluigi Martini
    8: Emerson Fittipaldi (1 lap down)
    9: Rene Arnoux (1 lap down)
    10: Andrea de Cesaris (2 laps down)
    11: Patrick Tambay (3 laps down)
    12: Stefan Johansson (4 laps down)
    Retirements
    13: Jan Lammers
    14: Eliseo Salazar
    15: Derek Warwick
    16: Nigel Mansell (how embarrasing)

    My apologies too, I missed out van der Poele, Caffi & Martini from the grid line-up. The next GP Masters race is where it started last year, Kyalami in November, see http://www.gpmasters.comwww.gpmasters.com for more details.

    (Message edited by Tom B on August 13, 2006)

  3. #163
    Well another WRC event down and another event closer to Wales Rally GB. Ive got tickets for the Friday and it should be fun, ill be in support of the big names and the top Brit in the field, Matthew Wilson. But enough about that, Marcus Gronholm won his 6th Rally of Finland in 7 years, heres the results plus a little info on the Stobart VK Ford team, see Matthew Wilsons result for more.

    Rally Finland Top 8 (+ Matthew Wilson)
    1: Marcus Gronholm (Ford) 2h52m50.3s (6th win at home from last 7 years)
    2: Sebastien Loeb (Kronos Citroen) +1m6.7s (Strong result to maintain his championship lead but believes 2nd is a bummer: D )
    3: Mikko Hirvonen (Ford) +1m34.5s (Achieves boyhood dream of being on the podium at home)
    4: Henning Solberg (OMV Peugeot) +3m57.8s (Matches his career best result from Cyprus last year)
    5: Gigi Galli (Pirelli Peugeot) +5m39.9s (Extra outing for the likable Italian brings more points)
    6: Janne Tuohino (PH Sport Citroen) +6m5.0s (1st points of the season for the ex-Ford & Skoda driver)
    7: Jussi Valimaki (Mitsubishi) +6m55.4s (Another haul of points, what chance a Mitsubishi M2 squad seat next season, if the plan goes ahead?)
    8: Jan Kopecky (Skoda) +10m15.0s (Another good showing from the young Czech)
    10: Matthew Wilson (Stobart VK Ford) +14m47.4s (Steady showing from the 19-year old on his last run in a Ford Focus WRC 04. As of the next round in Japan, Stobart VK Ford will be given 2 Ford Focus WRC 06s from the works Ford camp. It€™ll be interesting to see how quick Matthew & teammate Luis Perez Companc will be. I€™m looking forward to supporting Matthew at Wales Rally GB on Friday December 1st.)

    WRC Driver€™s Championship (Round 10/16)
    1: Loeb (92)
    2: Gronholm (61)
    3: Sordo (41)
    4: Hirvonen (27)
    5: Stohl (24)
    6: P.Solberg (20)
    7=: H.Solberg & Gardemeister (16)
    9: Galli (15)
    10: Pons (11)
    11=: Atkinson & Bengue (9)
    13: Kopecky (7)
    14=: Carlsson, Sarrazin & Valimaki (6)
    17=: Duval & Radstrom (4)
    19=: Aigner, Katajamaki, MacHale, Sohlberg & Tuohino (3)
    24: Wilson (1)

    WRC Manufacturer€™s Championship (Round 10/16)
    1. Kronos Citroen (122)
    2. Ford (107)
    3. Subaru (65)
    4. OMV Peugeot (50)
    5. Stobart VK Ford (24)
    6. Red Bull Skoda (22)

    Next WRC Event: Rally Japan (September 1st-3rd).

    A few questions for you guys to think about ahead of next weekend. Will Jenson Button add another F1 race winners trophy to his cabinet? Will Lewis Hamilton sew the GP2 title before Nelson Piquet Jnr catches him? All the answers and more in Turkey next week.

  4. #164
    Well Istanbul saw a new winner in both F1 & GP2 but while the new winner, Felipe Massa, celebrates, plenty of thought is afoot on Schueys future. Also the GP2 title looks like it will go to the final round at Monza but who will take it, Lewis Hamilton or Nelson Piquet Jnr?

    F1 Top 8 Istanbul
    1: Massa (Collects maiden win on start no.67)
    2: Alonso (Jumps Schuey at 1st stop and hangs on to 2nd by 1/10th of a second!!)
    3: M.Schumacher (Disappointed with the result but will need to win remaining 4 races to steal Alonsos crown)
    4: Button (Strong start leads to a quiet but well deserved 4th. Glad to see he trimmed his facial hair!!)
    5: de la Rosa (Takes 1 stopper to claim 5th)
    6: Fisichella (Recovers from turn 1 spin to claim points)
    7: R.Schumacher (Recovers from engine penalty but shouldve been better without 10 place engine penalty)
    8: Barrichello (Adds a extra point for Honda)

    Retirements
    15: Coulthard (Gearbox 3 laps from home)
    16: Albers (Strong drive goes unrewarded after crash)
    17: Sato (Rejoined after earlier damage)
    18: Rosberg (Water pump failure while in 5th ruins hard earned effort for points)
    19: Yamamoto (Spun)
    20: Liuzzi (Spun)
    21: Raikkonen (Tyre problems and turn 1 damage lead to Turkish nightmare for Kimi)
    22: Monteiro (Crashed at Turn 1)

    F1 Drivers Championship (Round 14/1
    1: Alonso (10
    2: M.Schumacher (96)
    3: Massa (62)
    4: Fisichella (52)
    5: Raikkonen (49)
    6: Button (36)
    7: Montoya (26)
    8: Barrichello (22)
    9: Heidfeld (19)
    10: R.Schumacher (1
    11=: Coulthard & de la Rosa (14)
    13: Trulli (10)
    14: Villeneuve (7)
    15: Webber (6)
    16: Rosberg (4)
    17: Klien (2)
    18: Liuzzi (1)

    F1 Constructors (Round 13/1
    1: Renault (160)
    2: Ferrari (15
    3: McLaren (89)
    4: Honda (5
    5: Toyota (2
    6: BMW (26)
    7: Red Bull (16)
    8: Williams (10)
    9: Toro Rosso (1)

    GP2
    Race 1 Top 8
    1: Nelson Piquet Jnr (Piquet)
    2: Lewis Hamilton (ART)
    3: Alex Premat (ART)
    4: Timo Glock (iSport)
    5: Lucas di Grassi (Durango)
    6: Adam Carroll (Racing Engineering)
    7: Andreas Zuber (Trident)
    8: Xandi Negrao (Piquet)
    Fastest Lap: Piquet Jnr (1m36.334s)

    Race 2 Top 6
    1: Zuber (Trident)
    2: Hamilton (ART)
    3: Carroll (Racing Engineering)
    4: Glock (iSport)
    5: Piquet Jnr (Piquet)
    6: Nicolas Lapierre (Arden)
    Fastest Lap: Hamilton (1m36.822s)

    Drivers Championship (Round 10/11)
    1: Hamilton (101)
    2: Piquet Jnr (91)
    3: Premat (62)
    4: Glock (5
    5: Viso (42)
    6=: Bruni & Carroll (33)
    8: Lopez (30)
    9: Pantano (2
    10: Lapierre (26)
    11: Ammermuller (25)
    12: Negrao (13)
    13=: Piccione & Zuber (12)
    15: Yoshimoto (9)
    16=: di Grassi & Perera (
    18: Valles (7)
    19=: Gommendy & Monfardini (6)
    21: Felix Porteiro (5)
    22: Luca Filippi (2)
    23: Sergio Hernandez (1)

    GP2 Teams Championship (Round 10/11)
    1: ART (163)
    2: Piquet Sports (104)
    3: iSport (101)
    4: Arden (51)
    5: Trident (45)
    6: Racing Engineering (33)
    7=: FMS & Super Nova (30)
    9=: BCN & DAMS (14)
    11=: Campos & DPR (12)
    13: Durango (9)

    Next F1 Round: Monza, Italy in less then 2 weeks time.
    Next GP2 Round: Coincidentally the same as above.

  5. #165
    More F1 news, the new provisional 2007 F1 calendar was unveiled today, which saw the Nurburgring & San Marino GP at Imola dropped. But of course, there is an uncertainty as to the venue for the German GP. Therefore no 2nd races in a country next year (potentially) but itll be sad if Imola is dropped, ah well, but another classic returns to the calendar, yup, SPA IS BACK!!

    2007 Provisional F1 Calendar
    March 18: Albert Park, Australia
    April 8: Sepang, Malaysia
    April 15: Sakhir, Bahrain
    May 13: Catalunya, Spain
    May 27: Monaco
    June 10: Montreal, Canada
    June 17: Indianapolis, USA
    July 1: Magnys Cours, France
    July 8: Silverstone, Britain
    July 22: Hockenheim or Nurburgring, Germany
    August 5: Hungaroring, Hungary
    August 26: Istanbul, Turkey
    September 9: Monza, Italy
    September 16: Spa, Belguim
    September 30: Shanghai, China
    October 7: Mount Fuji, Japan
    October 21: Interlagos, Brazil

    What are your thoughts to the provisional calendar?

  6. #166
    Dont quite think the race in Japan is up Mount Fuji Might be a bit tricky! Will be good to see a new track even at the expense of Suzuka.

    German race has got to be Hockenheim. Now one of the best tracks in F1( behind Spa of course!)

  7. #167
    Another talking point. Turkey might (and I say might) be removed from the calendar after political controversy at the recent Turkish GP. Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali, who presented the winners trophy to Felipe Massa on the podium, was introduced as the president of the Turkish Cypriot state. Now it all sounds complex and it is, so here are a couple of insight articles from GrandPrix.com which explain: http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17371.htmlhttp://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17371.html
    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17372.htmlhttp://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17372.html

    Also an interesting WRC talking point on the Stobart VK Ford which I read in last weeks Motorsport News, the team is looking for an established driver to partner Matthew Wilson through the season finale, Wales Rally GB, instead of relying on 1 of their 4 No.2 drivers. Heres a quick summary of the teams No.2s and the events theyve done with the team so far plus future 2006 rounds.

    Pieter Tsjoen (Monte Carlo)
    Luis Perez Companc (Sweden, Mexico, Argentina, Italy. To do: Japan, Cyprus, Turkey, Australia & New Zealand)
    Kosti Katajamaki (Sweden, Italy, Greece, Finland. To do: Turkey)
    Jari Matti Latvala (Spain, France, Germany. To do: Unknown)

    Now just to add my thoughts on this, either Stobart Ford could bring back Colin McRae (just to clear up anyone who wouldve jumped to the wrong conclusions, im not suggesting that he is involved, ITS JUST MY OWN THOUGHTS OK) Mark Higgins (he won the 2005 British Rally Championship with the team) or use Jari Matti Latvala because he has British rallying experience having competed in the 2003 British Rally Championship. What are your thoughts on these topics?

    (Message edited by Tom B on August 29, 2006)

  8. #168
    Rally Japan Top 8 (plus Matthew Wilson)
    1: Sebastien Loeb (Kronos Citroen) 3h22m20.4s (Clinches record breaking 27th WRC win to emulate former team-mate Carlos Sainz as most successful WRC rally winner)
    2: Marcus Gronholm (Ford) +5.6s (Fought back on Day 3 despite untidy driving on Day 2 ruining chance of victory)
    3: Mikko Hirvonen (Ford) +02m46.5s (Ran as high as 2nd but dropped to 3rd for the whole event and stayed there)
    4: Chris Atkinson (Subaru) +06m07.8s (Haunted by mechanical problems and car damage but best of the rest)
    5: Stohl (OMV Peugeot) +07m10.7s (Steady 1st showing in Japan
    6: Toshi Arai (Subaru) +09m05.1s (Good WRC showing since 2002 despite hurting a friend on stage 16)
    7: Petter Solberg (Subaru) +11m43.7s (Haunted by mechanical problems all weekend but benefits from Sordos DQ for a seatbelt infanction, see here: http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Sordo-excluded-after-seatbelt-infraction-~cid~4~id~136768.htmhttp://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Sor...raction-~cid~4 ~id~136768.htm )
    8: Fumio Nutahara (Mitsubishi) +22m57.4s (1st in Production and scores 1st WRC point)
    40: Matthew Wilson (Stobart VK Ford) +56m24s (Turbo charger failure on day 2 and off while letting Atkinson through sees the Brit lose 45 minutes. Worst WRC outing ever!!)

    WRC Drivers Championship (Round 11/16)
    1: Loeb (102)
    2: Gronholm(69)
    3: Sordo (41)
    4: Hirvonen (33)
    5: Stohl (2
    6: P.Solberg (22)
    7=: Gardemeister & H.Solberg (16)
    9: Galli (15)
    10: Atkinson (14)
    11: Pons (11)
    12: Bengue (9)
    13: Kopecky (7)
    14=: Carlsson, Sarrazin & Valimaki (6)
    17=: Radstrom & Duval (4)
    19=: Katajamaki, MacHale, Sohlberg, Aigner, Tuohino & Arai (3)
    25=: Nutahara & Wilson (1)

    WRC Manufacturers Championship (Round 11/16)
    1. Kronos Citroen (132)
    2. Ford (121)
    3. Subaru (74)
    4. OMV Peugeot (50)
    5. Stobart VK Ford (29)
    6. Red Bull Skoda (22)

    Next WRC Event: Cyprus in 3 weeks
    GP2 & F1 at Monza next week

  9. #169
    So much news today. The biggest of which is that Michael Schumacher IS GOING TO RETIRE at the end of this year. Michael has had a good career (even with the odd controversial moment), 7 world titles, 90 race wins and 66+ poles. I admit Ive seldom been a Schuey fan but even I was reduced to tears when the announcement came through. :sad: Ferrari confirmed Felipe Massa & Kimi Raikkonen as their driver line-up for 2007.

    Also Lewis Hamilton sewn up the GP2 title after a stewards inquiry saw Giorgio Pantanos Saturday fastest lap annulled owing to the Italian setting that lap under a yellow flag.

    Dutch car manufacturer Spyker confirmed this morning they had bought the Midland F1 team. Spyker also confirmed that ex-Toyota technical director Mike Gasgoyne will join the team. But of course this announcement was overshadowed heavily by the news of Schumachers future.

    Enough news, F1 & GP2 results.

    F1 Monza
    Top 8 Finishers
    1: M.Schumacher (Win no.90 for Schuey, Im sad that he has only 3 races to go)
    2: Raikkonen (Schueys successor delivers McLaren another podium as he prepares to jump ship at seasons end for Ferrari)
    3: Kubica (1st proper points and a 1st podium for the Polish driver, he definately is Rookie of the Year)
    4: Fisichella (Quiet 1 stopper leap-frogs the Italian)
    5: Button (Another consistent drive)
    6: Barrichello (Followed Fisis lead and did a 1 stopper)
    7: Trulli (Quiet race, unseen a bit but threatened in closing stages by Heidfeld)
    8: Heidfeld (Poor start added to drive-through for speeding in pit-lane sees a point gained)

    Retirements
    18: Monteiro (Unknown)
    19: Alonso (Blown engine, I think now he could be doing a Villeneuve and going on a gradual decline)
    20: de la Rosa (Lost power)
    21: Yamamoto (Unknown)
    22: Rosberg (Lost drive)

    F1 Drivers Championship (Round 15/1
    1: Alonso (10
    2: M.Schumacher (106)
    3: Massa (62)
    4=: Fisichella & Raikkonen (57)
    6: Button (40)
    7: Montoya (26)
    8: Barrichello (25)
    9: Heidfeld (20)
    10: R.Schumacher (1
    11: Coulthard (14)
    12=: de la Rosa & Trulli (12)
    14: Villeneuve (7)
    15=: Kubica & Webber (6)
    17: Rosberg (4)
    18: Klien (2)
    19: Liuzzi (1)

    F1 Constructors Standings (Round 15/1
    1: Ferrari (16
    2: Renault (165)
    3: McLaren (97)
    4: Honda (65)
    5: BMW (33)
    6: Toyota (30)
    7: Red Bull (16)
    8: Williams (10)
    9: Toro Rosso (1)

    GP2 results and Lewis Hamilton is champion but he didnt get the win he wanted to round out the season.

    GP2 Monza
    Race 1 Top 8
    1: Giorgio Pantano (FMS)
    2: Nelson Piquet Jnr (Piquet)
    3: Lewis Hamilton (ART)
    4: Luca Filippi (BCN)
    5: Alex Premat (ART)
    6: Nicolas Lapierre (Arden)
    7: Clivio Piccione (DPR)
    8: Hiroki Yoshimoto (BCN)
    Fastest Lap: Hamilton (1m31.038s)

    Race 2 Top 6
    1: Pantano (FMS)
    2: Hamilton (ART)
    3: Piccione (DPR)
    4: Lapierre (Arden)
    5: Yoshimoto (BCN)
    6: Piquet Jnr (Piquet)
    Fastest Lap: Hamilton (1m30.258s)

    Final GP2 Drivers Standings
    1: Hamilton (114)
    2: Piquet Jnr (102)
    3: Premat (66)
    4: Glock (5
    5: Pantano (44)
    6: Viso (42)
    7=: Bruni & Carroll (33)
    9: Lapierre (32)
    10: Lopez (30)
    11: Ammermuller (25)
    12: Piccione (1
    13: Negrao (13)
    14=: Yoshimoto & Zuber (12)
    16=: di Grassi & Perera (
    18=: Filippi & Valles (7)
    20=: Gommendy & Monfardini (6)
    22: Porteiro (5)
    23: Hernandez (1)

    Final GP2 Teams Standings
    1: ART (180)
    2: Piquet (115)
    3: iSport (101)
    4: Arden (57)
    5: FMS (46)
    6: Trident (45)
    7: Racing Engineering (33)
    8: Super Nova (30)
    9: BCN (22)
    10: DPR (1
    11: DAMS (14)
    12: Campos (12)
    13: Durango (9)

    Next F1 race at begining of October at Shanghai in China, but the WRC in Cyprus in 2 weeks.

    So 15 years in the sport & Schumacher will bow out next month in Brazil. Auf Wiedersehen, Michael!!

  10. #170
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    Other motorsport.....
    Drag Racing, NEW EUROPEAN TOP FUEL FUNNY CAR RECORD! 000000>Set by a local,
    John Spuffard at 5.28 seconds and 267mph.

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