GERONIMO!

[anukhet]

Im with Adam on this one. Im a single parent who has to go without just to pay for the rooms on this tour let alone meals out and petrol. Appearence money is something that doesnt go into my pocket, its to keep the robot running. Im also one that gets off lightly many a time seeing as Geoff kindly footed the bill for last Saturdays meal for example. Even after all that Im having to carefully (and I mean carefully) monitor my bank balance to keep up with attending events every 2 weeks.

[m2xt]

Personally, we attend events with no expectations for any expenses but it is nice when the organisers are in a position to share on the rewards they get for staging the event. Like many other teams though, no assistance towards expenses could mean not being able to attend as many events as one would want.

The position is continually changing, supply and demand comes into it and the organiser needs sufficient Roboteers to stage their event and may have to offer perks.

Paul

[robotwars]

talk about things getting taken out of proportion.

I had written a big reply, but cant be bothered.
I give up with this forum.

in simple terms, i did someone a favour who was organising an event and needed a certain type of machine. An event for fun, where people have a choice, take part, or dont.

I post here to see if anyone had any old technogames machines lying around that they may fancy a bit of fun with.

what do i get back via the forum and emails....

this is a rip off,
they dont know what they are doing,
why arent we getting paid to make the machine?
why arent we getting appearance money?
why arent we getting accomodation provided?

in further simple terms, if you cant afford it, dont agree with it, or simply dont like it.....

DONT DO IT !!!


Im going to buy a bar in the sun, where people have to pay for beer and food !!

[kane]

Jonno,

Will you have an arena next to the bar?

Could be a good combination!

Kane Aston
http://www.makerobotics.comhttp://www.makerobotics.com

[maddox]

Damn, when money enters the equation it all goes down the drain.

Now I can imagine some people make a big deal out of it. But if we want to attend an event we will, if we get a partialy refund of travelcosts we wont say no.
If not, so what.

Brighton,Folkestone, Liverpool, Newark and Billings for this year already. Unfortunatly the social on 2 october and Worthing dropped out, otherwise that would be the 6th and 7th event in the UK this year for us. Average cost on ferry, £130(*4= £520).Fuel, total this year for the UK alone £316.
Attendance fees this year.Travel refund for the Liverpool/Newark events(1 trip-stayed in the UK at Arthurs place), free camping and food wherever possible.Thanks to Jonno and crew.

Its a hobby.

Even in professional sports-like formula one- a stiff entrance fee has to be payed to the organizers to allowed to compete, not the other way around.

So, be glad we can do our thing in relative easygoing manners.

[grafix]

Hi Steve.

You are correct. We are not stars. Nor will we ever be. The point that I was trying to make was that I and many others are already stretched to the limit. Financially and physically. There is no getting away from that.

I hold Jonno in the highest regard for his dedication to the sport. At the moment we are lucky that we can get some money back. But there will soon come a time when we have to pay to play like many other sports such as motor cycling, racing, go carts etc. Will I pay to play? Of course I will. It is my hobby after all. I just hope that many others will as well. I believe that they will.

If this informatio about the Geronimo venture has been made public earlier then I would most certainly have entered. Its fun and I hope it always will be. But it didnt so no matter how much griping I or others do there is nothing that I can offer.

I, like many others have been making things other than RW type robots. I have just spent a great deal of time and money making a boxing robot. This leads me to firmly believe that there is great interest amongst ourselves to build things and have fun with them and others.

I do not, nor should anyone else look for financial reward. It isnt there. period. But while part costs are covered I see this as a bonus.

TV will make a programme using robots, either combat or Technogames style. And when they do we should all remember that it will be a very low budget programme. It is in all of our interests to help the TV companies do this. If after a time they make enough profits then maybe we should get a shareout in the form of expences etc.

As Mario sais Damn, when money enters the equation it all goes down the drain. I for one do not wish to see this happen. It is after all a hobby.

Mike.

[babeth]

You know, there is a reason why I havent got running water in my kitchen since June 2003... for some reason we would rather drive off to a live event than installing new waterpipes to replace the cut-off leaky ones. Money is after all only a print-out on your bank account slips and some things are more important being enjoyed than others.

With this little story I just wanted to explain why we go to events people, not to moan about finances. Life is life, but you live only once ! Or to quote a very nice person I know from an otherwise whacky weird forum:
quote:

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - strawberries in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming WOO HOO! What a Ride !

[botmad]

THE QUOTE IS AMAZING BABETH AND OH SO VERY TRUE ........... AND LETS FACE IT MOST ROBOTEERS EH WHAT A RIDE WE ARE ALL HAVING .......
I KNOW I AM !!!!!!!!!!!...........