*spoilers* Can we stick the review in this thread pl

**gravity** · 15th April 2004, 13:29

I didnt think the Gravity-lighting fight was boring. Nor did I think Gravity-Tornado was boring. Or the 4-way melee Gravity-Hodaf the bad-hydra-thor for that matter...

Fights dont get boring cause of the robots, fights get boring cause of the drivers.
Anyone remember the hypnodisc dominator2 fight ? BORING ! Which couldve been a very interesting fight !

Only reason I ootaed dantomkia at the first chance I had was because I knew it would be very hard to get a second chance. At that point the urge to survive and get to the next round was bigger then to make an interesting fight.
Mike and me couldve gone on for 5 minutes flipping eachother, but luck decided otherwise.
Find us on a live event and see how much fun it is watching a flipper battle !!!

**dinowarrior** · 15th April 2004, 14:09

Yeah, but the thing is with the Dominator Hypno-disc fight was this.

OK, so Hypno-disc didnt want any damage done to them, so they stayed out of it. But ALSO, theyd noticed that Dominator had lost drive to one wheel and were waiting for them to be counted out. But they were NOT counted out. The fight just continued. And, as a result...zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Now, the thing is, why was Dominator not counted out? (and why was it also not counted out in its fight against 13 Black?). On both occasions, it was clearly only moving on one wheel, and on one of those occasions (the first one), the team confirmed it. And every other robot before that time (Stinger in RW4 annihilator), during that time (Chaos 2 in Challenge Belt) and after that time (Bulldog Breed in S6 against Hypno-disc) were counted out if a wheel on one side broke down. So, why wernt Dominator counted out?

Answer THAT why dont you?

15th April 2004, 14:14

the ref was probably immobolised or its counter didnt work.

**dinowarrior** · 15th April 2004, 14:19

So why didnt the judges stop it, instead of calling it boring?

15th April 2004, 14:45

they thought that hypnodisk would continue smashing dominator up.....

**fluppet** · 15th April 2004, 15:41

Against Hypno, it actually looked as though Dominators frame was bent, and they were grounding on the floor. Had they actually lost drive, or were they just stuck? Not that theres much difference (the fight shouldve been stopped either way, and I learnt an important lesson about small ground clearance) but Im curious, and if I knew the answer Ive forgotten it.

They were probably hoping someone would feel obliged to make it interesting - I actually thought Dominator stood a chance against Hypno (as proven in a later fight). The same was true of Razers final against Bigger Brother - it dragged on because it was a final, and they didnt want to count a robot out (or perhaps they didnt want to let Razer loose on the house robots again). Interesting to mention the two together, since I always felt that Dominator was a robot that Razer pretty much couldnt beat (its the wrong shape).

Sorry, was someone expecting consistent behaviour from the Robot Wars judges/director? :-)

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15th April 2004, 19:26

I always wanted to see Razer V Dominator, Andrew, as the combination of the latter day Dominators rock hard armour and difficult shape would mean it would be tricky for Razer. However, i would say Razer would most definately beat it either by:

a) somehow getting a grip and putting it in the pit (quite possible)

b) winning a judges decision on aggression

or

c) managing to cruch down on the only flat surface - the wheel arches

Besides, i doubt Doms axe would do much damage to Razers armour.

**fluppet** · 15th April 2004, 19:56

In the later version the wheel arches meet the side of the frame at a shallow angle (I think they learnt not to leave sticky-out bits on the wheel arches in the fight against Hypno). I dont think it could be gripped there.

Im not convinced that the axe wouldnt go through Razers armour - although it would have to hit it in the right place (and not just bounce off the srimech wings) but there are nice, flat, not very thick bits there to be had; Dominators biggest failing is that its ability to apply its weaponry was always a bit limited. Youre right that Razer might manage to do a grab-and-pit, especially if they could get behind it, though.

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