Rob -
I never said that FBS cant get flipped OOTA just that it was very unlikely to happen to typhoon.
What rule change are you referring to ???????
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Rob -
I never said that FBS cant get flipped OOTA just that it was very unlikely to happen to typhoon.
What rule change are you referring to ???????
Whys it unlikely to happen to typhoon they got some kind of alien devic what allows then to freeze time and move out the way of a flip...
Kim, Remember Qualifying. Typhoon got flipped over!!! If it can get flipped over then why can it not be pushed to the wall and flipped over!
I would not have expected someone of your expertise to have said that about one specific robot. We are all at risk. The only way you could be sure its less likely is if other teams were not allowed to flip it out in which case it should have been too dangerous for it to have run in the current arena in the first place.
Chris - flippertime, nice idea!
We are focusing on Typhoon here, but remember, Tantrum was a problem too, and hes only a featherweight!
Prior to robot wars 7 featherweights required no link and no failsafes as Killalot will squash them if they are naughty
I show up to RW7 with tantrum (12kg robot with spinning bar that encloses the whole robot diameter), and I need a different link to the 2 I have, I need to remove half of the teeth, I need an FS1 heavyweight failsafe in addition ti the failsafes I had, and in the end this all meant I missed my fight.
If it had gone mad, Killalot could have sat on it, I told them this, if it had gone OOTA it would failsafe the weapon when I switched off, if it was upsideown OOTA you couldnt pull any link anyway.
I think the rule is, if on the day they think bloomin eck, I dont like that! then its not legal, no matter what. It has to be this way and Im fine with it. This is true of FBS but will become more worrying for thether robots someday.
just my thoughts
Like i say when it suits..
chris i wish we did!
Mark
If typhoon was spinning then it is very unlikely that it would get flipped, this applies to most FBS with a very low ground clearance. If you watched any of typhoons fights then you already know that.Any robot trying to get under would simply be pushed aside.
The problem with any FBS is if they get flipped OOTA when they are not spinning. The landing could damage something in the robot and then we have a major problem.
Our biggest worry with typhoon was it smashing the polycarb barrier hence it could leave the arena while spinning.
I think 21 robots were flipped OOTA in series 7 with no problems. As the robots get more dangerious then i think mentorn should reconsider its arena design to allow them to battle safely.
James is right that if a robot looks like it might harm anyone trying to activate or deactivate they would be given a chance to rectify the problem. No fix then no enter. I must say that very few robots had to make changes in series 7.
Typhoon is not unique in being problematical. NO robot can have its safety link safely removed if it is spinning wildly, or madly flapping or running its weapon, whatever the design of machine. Ive seen Dantomkia jammed in a spin, and the only way to deal with it was to wait until the batteries had nearly died then pin it with another heavyweight.
For Robot Wars, the primary objective of the safety link would appear to be to guarantee safety during normal activation and deactivation. It has a secondary use during clear-up after a robot has been sent OOTA, dumped in the pit, wedged under the angle grinders or been severely damaged, which is to enable the tech crew to guarantee that an immobile robot is permanently and securely immobile, and allow them to quickly, efficiently and safely remove it within filming schedules. If the machine fails to immobilise, then it should not be approached and the safety link should not be used, regardless of the nuisance this causes filming. The safety link simply cant be treated the same as the emergency kill switches on industrial machinery.
The issue of whether the outer arena wall is capable of resisting damage caused by a flipped FBS is separate to the issue of link placement. If the FBS fails to penetrate the wall when flipped then the likelihood is that the outer body will be wedged and the inner body will spin. I really dont see an OOTA Typhoon running around over the camera tracks, madly battering against the outer wall in an attempt to attack the audience.
On the issue of arena strength: It is Mentorns duty to ensure that no robot goes into the arena that could conceivably leave it through the outer curtain, or could send another through the outer curtain. I suspect that the series 5 arena which was used for series 7 was only barely up to the job, and it is perhaps conceivable that the curtain could have failed to retain Typhoon. In my estimation it could have been flipped while spinning by a powerful, low wedge flipper such as Gravity. Extremely unlikely, but possible. Furthermore, as robot design progresses, the risks worsen.
Well said Richard. The main safety issue really is whether the outer curtain can hold everything back in an OOTA situation, within a few minutes batteries/fuel will run out. Perhaps a 5 foot empty moat below floor level would mean the audience was safe.
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