Would you want to be that close? :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkCJvsS9MCQ
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Would you want to be that close? :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkCJvsS9MCQ
I've seen dumber things... just not many. :rofl:
Seriously though... someone is going to get killed there, just a matter of time :(
You've seen dumber things? I'm worried now :lol:
I hope there's some sort of rpm limit or weapon mass limit in there though, you would have to have the IQ of a coffee mug to run something like that with no restrictions...
I'd do it...
One of the first rules id imagine you'd put in place would be that people cant stand 5 feet from a spinner with nothing stopping it killing you. So i doubt there was any rules at all :shock: :shock: . And those where spinning pretty fast to.
Problem is that in places such as that H & S is non-existent and the implications don't even come into their minds until someone gets killed or seriously injured. Even then, only rarely, does something get done about it. Mike Lambert has told me some horror stories from his time working in Dubai last year - you may have seen the news reports about the conditions endure by migrant workers there. Most of it (but not all) is true.
that must be top of the youtube most stupid things to do list
And to think we used to have a 1000 or so posted thread on the use of an LED.........
Not even if you paid me a large sum of money would I get that close without a thick polycarb wall in front of me. :P
think they have any kind of link? :proud:
Of course they do.....it's when the spinning bar cuts through the umbilical cord :proud:
I don't know if any of you noticed, but this 'event' (and I use the term very loosley) was organised by / held at a government college of engineering!
What does that say about the 'duty of care' the Indian government shows for students in it's own educational establishments?
Can you imagine that sort of thing happening at say Brunell University dept. of engineering?
Moral of this story... If you get an invite to attend a robotic combat event in India... Just say no!
(you'll live longer that way!!)
funny you should mention brunel i might be going there for uni :)
unfair comment Geoff, they may not be very safety concious but nobody was hurt, surely finding who organised the event and making some suggestions on saftety on behalf and the sports gouverning body would be more helpfull than sitting behind a computer and mocking,
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
also i'd like to add that oundle mill xmas events used to run robots in a car park with no protection, i fought King B and Tornado with TX108 while running round behind it because we had no signal, Exterminator with its disc ran at full tilt while we stood a few feet away.
this was 2003-2004
It was events like this that the FRA was brought in for, its a dangerous sport and it needs the governing body to do its job which it has been doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWwePfdR5-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nARyxholmb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRZBMA9uGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdJwZ2nTls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBinAkEw9pc
sorry Ian not picking on you, just not very safe
dont find any of the vids not very safe only one which i think is bad if its classed as bad is where someones sitting on the bot but the other times hes flipping stuff away from the crowd and the bulldog 1 there just having a fight in a car park where there is a wooden wall which is obvs to tell the crowd there not allowed in there
I love the proper old skool car park battles. Obviously you can't throw spinners into the mix, but theres just something added by the scraping across tarmac that puts more excitement into the battle :)
was thinking the same the other day
cool, they will automatically remove themselves from the gene pool !
Craig, I make no apoligies for my coments, what we saw in the clip I posted was nothing short of criminal negligence on the part of whoever organised that event.
As for FRA involvment, I think you will agree that India is just a little outside of our juristiction!
However if the association were to be contacted by any overseas organisation we would be more than happy to offer any advice we could to ensure they ran a safe event.
Out of interest, we have in the past offered advice to organisations in South Africa, Malaysia & Singapore and continue to work closely with the RFL in the US and the DRG / GRA in Europe.
to quote the FRA Aims
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Promotion and education of all things to do with robots,
of all weights, shapes and sizes
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To provide consistency with regard
to open event safety, arenas and robot build rules.
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To centralise communications, in effect be a library
of contacts and to promote the sport.
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To encourage the set up of regional meeting clubs,
that are either part of the FRA or affiliated to the FRA.
#
To endeavour to work with other countries associations
for the betterment of our sport.
#
To represent roboteer interests in negotiations
with other bodies.
#
To generally make the roboteers lot a better one.
Doesnt say anywhere that the FRA is strictly for the UK, yea Geoff I think this is within the juristriction of the FRA
The comments posted on You Tube speak for themselves however I have done a bit of digging and have found where this video was shot - the details have been passed to the FRA's Safety Officer.
BTW perhaps now we will be accused of heavy-handedness.......... big sigh!
When did the FRA appoint a permanent safety officer? As far as I was aware there was only one appointed for a temporary solution ( for arena grading etc with craigs event).
Paragraph 4.1c of the Constitution has the answer.
Thats strange - I was told by members of the governing body no such person had been voted in (about a month ago now). And can I ask why event organisers havnt been notified of any change in a role thats actually pretty important to us?
Correct! No one has been voted in but we have someone 'acting' in the role on an ad-hoc basis. Even before you mentioned it (by just under half an hour :proud:) I made the suggestion that the subject of making it a permanent role be raised as an agenda item for the next meeting, it will then be up to the GB to decide.
Can it also be voted on by EO's aswell? I believe we are one of the most effected by it, and would want to vote on something we believe can directly effect the way our events are run, but recently we all seem to be left completly out the loop of whats going on with anything....
Unfortunately not. Constitutionally the FRA represents the interests of roboteers therefore the GB makes the appointment for the role. I must add that EO's have never been excluded from GB meetings and when subjects directly affecting them are discussed they are sent a direct invitation - three particular recent cases in point at the last meeting being the judging rules, arena trials and the future of roboteering.
Lets put it this way, it doesn't matter who is appointed and whether their appointment is permanent or not, the FRA's Build Rules and Event Safety Regs are what the FRA expect to be followed but should an EO want to consider something safety related that isn't contained in those documents the FRA are always open to consultation - it doesn't need to wait for a GB meeting.
Sorry but that is totally not true... Every EO will vouch for that! Comunication about ANYTHING is non existant - non of us know about whats going on right now, including FRA Championships this year (and the role of presidency).Quote:
Originally Posted by anukhet
Right now nothing IS going on. When it does you WILL know but it's not my call I'm afraid.
Ok here is what i think.....
There should be yet another shake up of the FRA.
Personally the whole thing is too political. The EO's in my opinion should definatly have a vote on who they deem fit to be some kind of saftey officer. Not to implement rules or tell EO's what they should and shouldnt be doing but to communicate and go over saftey issues the EO's have. Its not brain surgery is it. There are 3 different types of arena with different saftey issues. Any saftey officer representing the FRA should communicate with all 3 EO's and communicate with the FRA all as a whole. Everything should be discussed.
Now to stand on a pedestal and get shot down................
Geoff has done very little in the form of a saftey officer. I havent seen him post on this forum for a long time. He is not eligable to go to all events. Also on saftey officer issues which are being discussed now i dont understand why Karoline is doing all the shouting and geoff is silent. The saftey officer issues are down to geoff so it is he that should respond to issues.
Its all gone breasts up.
There are 2 many chiefs and not enough indians.
its got to change.
Jenny in my opinion cant stand for president as Jenny cant attend all EO's events. John Bell has put himself forward for the position. So the maths are not difficult to work out there are they. So either open the polls again for president now or make John Bell the president.
Lets just get on with it and do something instead of sitting around on our bottoms waiting for someone else to do something.
That or make me President and i will get things moving no worries.
Swanny for president :proud:
(Seriously. If you want to thrown your name in. Can't doubt your committment or passion)