The Killer Toad Tournament Special

Roll up roll up and welcome to another crappy Dave introduction :lol:

Its time for a grunge revolution

oh yeah. If you have a particular grunge against a particular robot, this is the place to place your cards.

Im looking to do about 5 grunge matches, so what I need is for people to state their grunges and have their opponents accept the challenge, and then for both people to post the stats of the robot they want to use for the grunge match (posting in this thread, no links please).

The arena is going to be a modified RW6 arena, with the only hazards being the pit (open all the time), and a wall spike.

I thought they were grudges, not grunges. :proud:

I thought it was too..... perhaps he wants us to pitch robots that are really shiny and need to be mucked up?

Well anyway, of course if it is grudge match, then no grudge match set is complete withour slammer vs the disc

*flicks Dan*

My dodgy English has let me down again :sad:

Grudge Match 1 (TBC by Frank):
Slammer vs. The Disc

If Alex wants to even try and beat System Shock with Achilles he can, because Ive just updated it and the two previous incarnations stuffed the PTT5 champ. He did actually say he would be back for vengeance... up for it? It isnt a classic though so Ill understand if you want some older grudges. Ill post stats if Alex agrees

I dont think I have any grudges...the ones I did have have been dealt with. :proud:

Yeah sure, Im always up for fights.

Whats with this no links rule though - surely all that does is prevent people from use of images?

Robot Name: Systematical Shockerlarity
Shape: Box wedge with a slightly rounded rear
Weight: 110kg
Length: 80cm
Width: 80m
Height: 30cm
Motivation: 4 x Drill-Zilla style shuffling feet
Power: 2 x B42-500s at 48v
Armour: 5mm hardox all over, but 5mm titanium skirts, there also 4mm titanium arches over the feet, these are 8cm high, so that even if something penetrates them it won€™t make contact with the feet
Weaponry:
1)The pushing power
The following weapons are interchangeable:
1)A vertical drum, spun upwards by a LEM-130 at 36v at 3000rpm, made of titanium and spanning the full width of the robot, mounted on the wedge so that it still has 0 GC, produces 25Kj per hit
2)Rear hinged lifting arm, powered by 2 linear actuators, it raises to almost vertical in less than a second, it is built into the robot and hinged at the very back, constructed from 5mm hardox, it reaches down the wedge and bends upwards at the bottom ala Bigger Brother to help get in underneath, and although the arm is narrow running up the body it stretches out and spans the full length of the front wedge
Top Speed: 20mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at front due to wedge, effectively 0 at sides due to skirts and 6mm at rear and behind skirts
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: The arm will right the robot in less than a second, but if I want it it to be invertible I will remove the arches
Colour: Yellow arm and light blue bodywork, like the original System Shock

I wouldnt mind having a battle against someone... but who has a grudge against me, Im amazing! :proud:

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I wouldnt mind having a battle against someone... but who has a grudge against me, Im amazing!

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I flipping do :angry: and Im going to challenge Supreme Glory Omega with Knyfe to get some revenge for my poor decision in the Heat B Final of Robot SMASH!! Series 2 Recharged.

Im always up for Spin Dash Unleashed vs. SOR X, as long as Steve agrees.

Alex is right, this grudge match is needed in any self respecting line up of grudge matches. Even if they are spelt wrong. Slammer vs The 6isc is on :)

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Whats with this no links rule though - surely all that does is prevent people from use of images?

Links to images located on outside sites are allowed, its easier for me to have all the stats in one place rather than visiting various sites (also to stop people being sneaky and updating their robot mid-way though the tournament)

Grudge Match 1 (awaiting stats from both people)
Slammer vs The 6isc

Grudge Match 2:
Systematical Shockerlarity vs Achilles

GM3: (Awaiting Steves confirmation)
Spin Dash Unleashed vs. SOR X

GM4:
Kody and Co. vs. Mark & Timmy :proud:

GM5:
Supreme Glory Omega vs. Knyfe

Anymore for anymore?

Like I could turn down another SD/SOR face-off. Count me in. :wink:

Assuming nobody wants to join me taking down the n00bs, Ill enter Tira IV in that blank spot of mine. :P

Ill get the stats up shortly. Too lazy to do so right now. :P

Ill help ya defeat El N00bs, Ko-D. :)

w00t.

Stats, by the way:

Tira IV

Pic: http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...raIV-1.pngHere

The 6isc

Shape: Too complicated, apparently. See picture in the vapourbot images thread.

Size: 60X110X60 CM (LWH)

Weight: ~100 KGs

Speed: 10 MPH.

Ground clearance: Under the wheel protectors, it€™s 5 mm.

Weapon: 26 KG spinning disc, powered by one LEM 130 Lynch motor and going at 2500 RPM. The disc is shaped with its own teeth rather than needing teeth surgically attached to it, so dentistry is quite impossible. The energy output is 36 KJ€™s which, while modest by vapour €˜bot standards should still be enough to make a mess of things.

Wheels: 6 wheels, but four wheel drive. This has three wheels on either side arranged in a triangular fashion, so it only runs on four at a time. The wheels are 1 CM solid Ti with soft compound rubber wrapped around them to provide shock resistance, and a layer of Vulcalon wrapped around that to provide traction.

Chassis: The main chassis consists of one solitary 1 CM thick 4 mm box section hardox bar. Slotted over that is a secondary axle, inside which are the batteries. There are also two other triangular chassis€™ supporting the wheels. These are made from 4 MM 1 CM box section Ti bars with weight reducing holes.

Armour: The true axle and chassis is a 4 MM hardox bar. The battery axle is 2 mm aluminium. The semi circular wheel protectors and side spikes are 5 mm Hardox. The disc itself is 14 MM of Hardox 500, and the outer axle is 4 mm grade 5 Ti.

Srimech: Totally invertible. Controls won€™t even have to be reversed after flipping, meaning it can just go straight back on the attack.

Drive: 2 S28-400 Magmotors at 24 volts.

Strengths: The newest version of The 6isc does away with as many weaknesses in The Disc 5 as I could find.

Weaknesses: Weak armour in places. Can€™t use axe attacks.

Tactics for Systematical Shockerlarity vs. Achilles:

Ill remove the protective arches and use the spinning drum like I did last time to try and rip through that 5mm titanium side armour. I can easily outpush him, and my plan is to get around the side to damage and then pit!

Good luck Alex, lets see if you can win 1 back (the current ercord for this match is 2-0 to me!):)

I dont get why people love drum weapons so much, they never actually seem to do anything at the best of times, and certainly not against titanium. They lack the diamter to get up sufficient power to rip through anything much, vaguely scratch perhaps?

Ow I beg to differ. Blackdevil warzone punched its way straight through 2 layers of 3mm Stainless and bending the crankshaft behind it.

The only major drawback we had was that our drive was unreliable, but the drum worked like a charm.

(Message edited by leorcc on July 23, 2008)

Well in that instance would someone care to find me a video of a drum working well because Ive never personally seen it.

I spoke to the Stinger team sometime before Extreme 1 and they said that Tornados drum had sliced their hubcabs pretty good. Remember, just because damage isnt visible on telly doesnt mean its not there.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9sTFw4D_xl4&feature=relatedhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=9sTFw4D_xl4&feature=related

OK point proven that drums can be damaging and effective. I know when to admit defeat lol, however most of the damage done there was stuff that stuck out from the main body rather than armour on the main thing. I still dont think I have to worry too much about ripping through my titanium. Scratch it up a lot possibly.

Incidentally you dont seem to give any details on your weapon that would let me get a better idea - diameter, weight, dimensions and number/size/position of teeth would be nice...

Can I just point something out Alex - its something I learnt with D.V.D against Crash Bandi-Bot 3. Unless youve got an opponent made from Ali, you are not going to shred your opponents armour with a drum, but youre going to knock panels off that arent, or even ARE securly placed.

If that drum does damage you itll be easy from then-on.

For my match-up against SGO, my plan last time was to use spikes, to impale him at an angle suitible for me and pit him. I impale him, but at the wrong angle, the whole plan flipping backfired :proud:

This time, Ill use...

3: Front wedges, mounted in a similar way to those on forklift trucks, reaching out 25cm, and made of 8mm G5 Titanium, and of course getting thinner as it reaches the end of the wedges. The point of these is to ground other robots on them, and make them easier to push without resistance.

The advantage of this is the surface area rule, as because of the narrow tip, Im more likely to get under it than I would with the big wedges. From then on, use all 50 horses in my drive and slam him to hell and back...then dump him to Satan in person, by pitting him :proud: Im looking to avenge WORCK, MeCannibal and Knyfes previous loss.

Good luck Daniel :wink:

Its the same drum I used in the previous robot:

A titanium drum, with 8 pussycat style teeth, powered by a LEM-130 at 36v, it spins upwards to flip as well as rip. There is also a 3.25mm hardox scoop underneath the drum to give it 0 ground clearance, it is 25cm in diameter and spans for the full width of the robot, it weighs 8kg

Grudge Match 1
Slammer vs The 6isc

Grudge Match 2:
Systematical Shockerlarity vs Achilles

GM3:
Spin Dash Unleashed vs. SOR X

GM4:
Tira IV & Daniel vs. Mark & Timmy (I just need some prime idiotic examples of Mark n Timmys work in which to destroy, I mean fight)

GM5:
Supreme Glory Omega vs. Knyfe

Alex, do I assume your stats are at your usual site and for me to use the latest available stats?

Dan, I need stats for SGO

Andy & Steve, i need stats for both your machines

Ive got one for Timmy! It cracks me up every time!

Ive got a design which might work
Name: Fairground Killride

Weight:100KGS

Dimensions: 23CMX88CMX75CM

Shape: Do you know that fairground ride where it spins you around then up then down well that.

Wheels: 2 Small rubber grip wheels powered by 48V Eteks.

Motors: 8X48V Magmotors and 1 48V Etek.

Speed: 3mph

Turning Circle: Robot:0m Weapon:20m

Armour: 48MM Titanium and 36MM Hardex.

Ground Clearence: With Skirts 0CM all around without skirts 48MM Ground Clearence.

Weapons: A small Gyro Swing with hooks on the back of the seats. It spins so it twirls upwards hooks up the enemy flings them up then goes back down and goes both ways at 30MPH. In theory it can rip a robots armour clean seeing as it spins at 3222RPM and so uses up the 6 of the 8 magmotors just for the weapon.

Other: Its based on Maelstrom in Drayton Manor Theme park but even more deadly

Name: Supreme Glory Omega
Weight: 100kg
Armour: 20mm Lexan and LexiGuard compound and 4mm Grade 5 Titanium skirts.
Speed: 18mph, running of 2 x S28-400 MagMotors running at 24v.
Shape: Box shaped with Ti skirts on each side.
Weapon 1: An 11kg Aluminium alloy axe powered by liquid Nitrogen running at 1000psi. The axe mechanism is a rack and pinion system, using a 100mm stroke, 80mm bore pneumatic cylinder.
Strengths: Strong armour and very manoeuvrable.
Weaknesses: Axe only works if something is in front or behind the robot.
Ground Clearance: 0mm all around due to skirts.
Srimech: The axe self rights the robot.
Notes: The 2 wheels are made from Ti/V alloy and coated in Vulcalore to aid in traction. The robot is covered in 20mm Lexan and LexiGuard compound. The axe weighs a total of 11kg and is shaped like Excaliburs axe from series 3 of Robot Wars. This shape is designed to focus all the force on a single point, meaning it can pierce through armour easily. To stop the robot hopping around when the axe is fired, the robot incorporates a vacuum system. This system basically sucks SG0 to the ground and is mainly used when fighting pushers or robots with superior pushing power. This mechanism can be knocked on and off during the match. The robot carries 4kg of liquid Nitrogen on board and has roughly 35 hits per fight. The axe can come down with roughly 2 tonnes of force at the tip, meaning that the axe could knock certain opponents out in one hit.

And for GM4...

Robot Name: Fling
Dimensions (LxWxH): 100cm x 80cm x 40cm
Shape: Shallow wedge with angled sides and a shaped rear to stop it getting stranded, as well as keeping the wheels on the ground if going up a wedged robot or a ramp. On the bottom of the wedge is a wedge extender, making the ground clearance 0mm.
Colour: Half black and half white, with white decoration on the black side and black decoration on the white side. Celtic bands painted throughout the robot.
Weight: 100kg.
Drive: 2 Sinclair C5 Motors running at 24v, powered by Nicad Batteries.
Batteries: 3x 3000mAh Nicads at 24v, giving 9Ah. These power both the drive and the winch needed for the weapon.
Top Speed: Roughly 15 to 20mph.
Wheels: 2 x 20cm diameter go-kart wheels filled with expanding foam instead of air. These are positioned at the back of the machine.
Armour: 4mm Hardox for the wedge extender, 8mm Titanium on the sides and 6mm Titanium everywhere else.
Weaponry: A €œleaf spring€ flipper mounted on the front of the machine. The concept is similar to Team Whyachi€™s Red Square, but with the flipper on an angle to toss robots lengthways AND upwards. Can you say OOTA? . The flipper plate itself is made from a tempered piece of 1 thick Titanium/Vanadium alloy, designed to spring back to a curved shape once it has been flattened. One section is fastened securely to the top of the wedge, with the tempered edge winched down so it lies flush with the rest of the wedge. When a robot is on the front wedge, the free end is released and the opponent is sent not only upwards, but also away from the machine. The flipping plate is winched down by an S28-150 Magmotor running at 24v, geared down 400:1.
Turning circle: 0m.
Ground Clearance: 0mm at front, 2cm at the back, varying between both on the sides.
Srimech: Flipper.

Yes they are, but I can post them if you want?What is it about this thread that is making me come off as really arguementative?

Perhaps because you are? :rofl:

can I add to the drum vs vertical flywheel arguement that drums have alot more surface area, alot more accuracy because of that, they make sure your centre of gravity can be alot lower, they cause less gyroscopic effects and they ask for less exotic shapes for the main body (I mean, Nightmare... come on!)

*leaves quietly*

Achilles:
http://www.geocities.com/alex_j_holt/achillesd.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/alex_j_holt/achillesd.htm

Slammer:
http://www.geocities.com/alex_j_holt/slammer6.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/alex_j_holt/slammer6.htm

Even though Fairground Killride will be overweight on Mars, Im allowing it entry because of the silliness of the 4th match

Grudge Match 1
Slammer vs The 6isc

Grudge Match 2:
Systematical Shockerlarity vs Achilles

GM3:
Spin Dash Unleashed Stats Needed vs. SOR X Stats Needed

GM4:
Tira IV & Fling vs. Trojan/Virus/Worm & Fairground Killride

GM5:
Supreme Glory Omega vs. Knyfe

For TVW, Im using the stats found at the bottom of: http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/discus/messages/760/12178.html?1209043731http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/disc...tml?1209043731 Marks post number 435

I shall try and get my arse together and start some matches this weekend/next week

Stats ahoy!

Spin Dash Unleashed (formerly Metal Sonic Spin Dash)
SHAPE- skirted box, with rounded sides and back.
COLOUR- dark blue bodywork, with red-and-white striped skirting.
WEIGHT- about 100kg
DIMENSIONS- 100cm X 75cm X 20cm
SPEED- 16mph
TURNING CIRCLE- 0mm
GROUND CLEARANCE- virtually 0mm all round, 10mm at sides and rear without skirts.
ARMOUR- 4mm Hardox
MOVEMENT- inner, 6WD
POWER- 2 x LEM-130s. These run at 36v and produce approximately 18hp.
WEAPONS- A horizontal Pussycat-style saw blade on the front. The blade is mounted on the underbelly ala Code:BLACK and is designed to chew up skirts and wheels. It is powered by an S28-150 Magmotor and runs at 3000rpm. Its 18hp and shape also makes it an excellent battering ram.
SRIMECH- invertible. The rounded sides and rear also prevent it getting beached.
NOTES- flies Scotland flag.
STRENGTHS- excellent traction, fast, tough armour, low weaponry, invertible
WEAKNESSES- untested, so-so manoueverability, saw blade less effective upside-down

PIC- http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5359/spindash6ta1.pnghttp://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5...indash6ta1.png

Good Good :)

Name: SOR X
Shape: Low vertical cylinder with a front wedge, like Warrior SKF.
Length: 800mm
Width: 600mm
Height: 125mm
Weight: 100kg
Drive: 2x S28-400 Magmotors run at 24v from 3600mAh NiCad battery packs, which gives about 9hp in the drive. This runs two Aluminium wheels with a Vulkolan tread for grip.
Turning Circle: 0mm using a two-wheel drive tank steer system.
Speed: 16mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm at front wedge, 7mm elsewhere.
Armour: 6mm Hardox on the front wedge, 4mm Hardox on the top and bottom, 8mm Hardox for the spinning rim.
Weapon: The main weapon is a Gyrobot style spinning rim run by an S28-400 Magmotor at 24v providing speeds of 2500rpm. It can reach this speed in around 3 seconds. It has three Hardox teeth to slice into other robots with. The secondary weapon is a kinetic flipper within the front wedge. The spinning rim can transfer its energy via a clutch and fire the flipper, which is capable of throwing robots several feet in the air.
Self-righting mechanism: SOR X is invertible, and the rim can work both ways up.
Notes: SOR X has an unlimited amount of flips.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zs36Lv8P_1o

Thanks Andy :)

(got any pictures?)