HELLO!

Hello, Im Sam Park, I live in Canada. Id like to introduce you to my vapourbots.

Poison Stinger
Body Shape: Thor without the hammer
Weight: 98 kgs
Top Speed: 14 mph
Armour: 2mm Aluminum on the sides, 5mm Plexiglass on the Top and Bottom
Weapon: Pneumatic Spike Powered by 2 CO2 tanks (Lasts for 12 jabs)
Strength: Great Pushing Power
Weakness: Ineffective Weapon, Driver Needs More Practice

Crushinator
Body Shape: Storm 2
Weight: 98 kgs
Top Speed: 29 mph
Armour: 5mm Plexiglass
Weapon: Lifter, Forklift
Strengths: Destructive Speed
Weaknesses: No Damaging Weapons

Hello Sam, Ive seen you around here. Welcome to the forum! Rather ironic that its another Canadian that first replies to your topic, huh? :proud:

Allow me to give you some advice - you need a little more detailed stats.

Top speed - whats giving it the top speed? What motors, batteries power it? What wheels motivate it, or does it use tracks, treads, shuffling pads, legs, etc.? Find out whats best suited for your type of bot. You need to include this in your stats.

Weapon - again, whats powering it? A motor? (spinning weapon) A linear actuator? (lifting forks) Pneumatics? (flippers and axes) What is the amount of kJ your axe or disc achieves in every attack? Again, find the right stuff, and put it in your stats.

Armour - Youre never going to get anywhere with 2mm Aluminum or 5mm Plexiglass these days. :proud:. Really, try and find some good armour types to use.

Most importantly (and rather summing it up, actually), Sam: RESEARCH. Find out what other real robots or vapourbots (such as Steves or Franks) are using for materials. Ask people questions (politely), and they will give you the answers. :)

Finally...I think the name Crushinator has been taken. If it hasnt someone tell me. :proud:

UNDERWEIGHT!:proud:

Just to put something into perspective; I used 2mm aluminium for the main body of my featherweight (only weighed 7kg) and it got bent in every fight. Particularly at the European Championships in July I had to take all the components out of it TWICE just so I could get the chassis bent back into shape. Moral of the story? Dont use 2mm aluminium, especially on a heavy :proud:

For Poison Stinger you could get away with having 4mm hardox for your armour if, once youve added your drive specifications, theres enough weight for it. You say its shaped like Thor but without the axe, well I believe Thors entire chassis is constructed from 4mm hardox so its not likely to put you overweight just having it as armour.

Your designs are certainly feasible though; they could easily be built in real life so that shows that theyre realistic enough and can be effective without bordering on the far-fetched :)

my new bot
Name: Quazer
Weight: approx 94kg
Size (L/W/H): 60cm/60cm/12cm
Speed: 12mph
Ground Clearance: 10mm
Drive:2 bosch 750w 7:1 ratio right angle gearbox worm gearbox
Weapon: 2x 25KG rings one running clockwise one running anti clockwise at 1200rpm driven by 2 CMG brushless motor (10.5lbs 6500rpm 11Kw)
Armour/Chassis: 8mm polycarbonate on top and bottom chassis is 2.5mm walled 25mm by 25mm box section
Batteries: 15A NiMH 28v single pack (same as behemoth)
Notes: its invertable pic on http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818

Thats funny, I did a similar design 3 years ago to build for real. I never got around to it though.

The weight looks doable. I had about the same figures as you do, all be it with different motors.

it was Tomo from the antweights 4-5 years ago at debenham that cam up with this design, i calculated it to 93.81KG doesnt include nuts and bolts but i think i can get them in 4kg
Only problem with the CMG motors is there so expensive but boy are they worth it

Luckily price is not an issue with Vapourbots. :)

jamie thors armour is 4mm hardox front and 5mm hardened ali rear. it would be way overweight if it was all hardox. shame.

I believe this thread was about pointing out (slight) problems with Samuels vapourbots? :wink:

I must say, I like the design of Quazer though. :proud:

kody i believe this thread was about sam introducing himself and his robots :crazy:

Wiseass :proud:

Id like to see what else Samuel has back in his virtual garage though. :wink:

and introducing Hex,

Weight: approx 127kg
Size (L/W/H): 140cm/80cm/80cm
Speed: 10mph
Ground Clearance: 80mm
Drive:12x Custom servo gearmotors
Weapon: hydralic claws which lift via a linear actuator and the pneumatic tail which can selfright
Armour/Chassis: 8-6mm hardox plate welded
Batteries: 2x12v 16A hawkers
Notes: its a walker
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818

Let me see if i get this straight:

You would have 2 servo motors on 1 leg, 1 to lift the leg and 1 turning it?

I doubt you will get it in 130 kg though, with hydraulics and pnuematics and the Hardox, but i cant say for sure since I dont know the weight of each servo (which will not be light either to have that much torque).

oh and btw, the design itself looks great!

your quiet right 130kg is way off, dont know where that went wrong, ill recheck that
yea one to go up one to turn

As far as I know, true walkers have a 200 KG limit, so youve got some sparee to play with there.

True walkers can indeed be 200kg in the heavyweight class, which this robot would definatly qualify as.

OK, I made a robot and this time its going to be sweetly brutal. So, here we go.

Turbo Shredder

Shape: La Machine

Weight: 96 kgs

Top Speed: 15 mph

Armour: 4mm Stainless Steel All Around

Skirts: One Skirt on the front

Ground Clearence: 0mm around the front, and 2.1mm on the back and the sides

Wheels: 2 X Wheels Inside (Aluminum Hub)

Power: 2 X Lem-130s running on 36 volts

Battery: 8 X BPK-3600-36 BattlePacks

Weapons: A very nasty 19kg, 3700RPM vertical spinning disc powered by a single magmotor on 24V, capable of dishing out 83kJ

Srimech: An Electric Bar at the rear powered by a linear acutator.

Strengths: Powerful Weapon, Great Pushing Power

Weaknesses: None Hopefully :proud:

(Message edited by samuel3764 on December 14, 2007)

8 battlepacks 36V is 20kg of battery. you might want to cut down on that.

I edited my entry.

Shape: La Machine

Weight: 96 kgs

Top Speed: 15 mph

Armour: 4mm Stainless Steel All Around

Skirts: One Skirt on the front

Ground Clearence: 0mm around the front, and 2.1mm on the back and the sides

Wheels: 2 X Wheels Inside (Aluminum Hub)

Power: 2 X Lem-130s running on 36 volts

Battery: 5 X BPK-3600-36 BattlePacks

Weapons: A very nasty 19kg, 3700RPM vertical spinning disc powered by a single magmotor on 24V, capable of dishing out 83kJ

Srimech: An Electric Bar at the rear powered by a linear acutator.

Strengths: Powerful Weapon, Great Pushing Power

Weaknesses: None Hopefully

There isnt really a need for a front skirt. You might want to look for more effective armour. Also the ground clearence needs to be larger. But other than that, well done, it looks like you have researched some parts well.

I would recommend a different name, actually. :proud:

EDIT: Theres already another bot with Shredder in its name...

(Message edited by kodster on December 14, 2007)

I can see the point of a front skirt actually. If someone had a narrow wedge, they could probably drive it under his front without hitting the flywheel.

Again, I edited my bot.

Weight: 96 kgs

Top Speed: 15 mph

Armour: 4mm Stainless Steel All Around

Skirts: One Skirt on the front

Ground Clearence: 0mm around the front, and 7mm on the back and the sides

Wheels: 2 X Wheels Inside (Aluminum Hub)

Power: 2 X Lem-130s running on 36 volts

Battery: 5 X BPK-3600-36 BattlePacks

Weapons: A very nasty 19kg, 3800RPM vertical spinning disc powered by a single magmotor on 24V, capable of dishing out 83kJ

Srimech: An Electric Bar at the rear powered by a linear acutator.

Strengths: Powerful Weapon, Great Pushing Power

Weaknesses: None Hopefully

(Message edited by samuel3764 on December 15, 2007)

So the only modification you made is increasing your discs RPM output by 100?

EDIT: Nice edit there. :proud:

(Message edited by kodster on December 15, 2007)

who me? thanks:-)

Still, there are better armour choices out there. Look at some values for titanium or Lexan.

Also, running out that amount of kJ on the disc you will incapacitate yourself when your disc comes into contact with another bot. :proud: Id estimate that your disc would put out about 30-40kJ. Dont take those values, though, theyre just examples. Try and calculate it, or dont put a kJ value up at all if you cant figure it out. :proud:

http://www.teamcosmos.com/ke/ke.shtmlhttp://www.teamcosmos.com/ke/ke.shtml

With many thanks to Martijn (If I remember correctly) who gave me the link.

RedBack

Weight: 98kg
Size (L/W/H): 60cm x 60x 20
Speed: 114mph
Ground Clearance: 7mm
Drive:4 Dewalt powerdrives
Weapon:FBS powered by 2x S28-400 Magmotors 3:1 ratio
Armour/Chassis: 4mm Hardox with 10mm teeth
Batteries: 2x12v 16A hawkers
Notes: cant selfright
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818www.flickr.com/photos/tanto818

Wow, Dewalt powerdrives give 114mph - must get myself some of those :proud:

Kustom just got a rival methinks. :proud:

ah the stickykeys get me again sorry 14mph

Ive got another robot to show you.

Paralyzation

Shape: Box with low wedge
Weight: 99kg
Batteries: 6 X 36V 3.6ah NiCad BattlePack
Drive: 2 X MagMotor S28-400 each at 24V
Wheels: 2 X Wheels with a thin layer of vulkalon rubber on them
Top Speed: 19 mph
Ground Clearence: 0mm at the front, and 3mm on sides and back
Armour: 9 mm Titanium All Around
Weapon: 19kg Spinning Drum with 10 teeth Powered by a 24V LEM-130, spins at 4600 RPM
Srimech: Why should it? Its invertible.
Strengths: The Drum, Good Control, Hard to Approach from the Front
Weaknesses: Exposed Tyres...

Getting better, but less batteries please. 4 x 24v NiCad Battlepacks would do it, as the motors are run at 24v, so it makes sense for the batteries that power the motors are run at the same voltage. :proud:

As for the rest, Id increase the voltage for the weapon motor to 36v, as LEM130s run more efficiently at that voltage. Whats the kJ for the drum? (google Team Cosmos to find their kJ calculator and calculate the kJ factor) Itd be awesome to know how much force the drum dishes out in every hit. :proud: Also, move the tires inside the main body (but keep it invertible) so that they dont become spinner fodder, as exposed tires are quite a big target nowadays.

One more thing: what are the dimensions of the bot? We kinda need an idea of how big it is. :proud:

All in all, quite good though. :)