hi all
havent got it yet but is the dx6 easy to setup quickly etc? and can you set it to not need a v tail mixer?
thanks alex
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hi all
havent got it yet but is the dx6 easy to setup quickly etc? and can you set it to not need a v tail mixer?
thanks alex
Yes ..... There is a mix option.
my opinion is once you have one, you wont go back
if you are using electroizers (the mix DONT WORK properly)use a mixer
it makes it go very slow (dragon king) beauty with leos speedoes works great
my opinion is once you have one, you wont go back
I have been very tempted to sell mine and go back to 40meg
Nearly all of us Aussies have converted to Spektrum. Simply because it works every single time you set it up and turn it on... 6Ch, plenty of features, no more damned crystals that fail or tuning coils to fail in RXs, No stupid aerials to get cut off, several mixing options, and it was cheaper then some of the FM radios we had... The rest of the guys either cant afford one yet or are clinging onto their 75mhz Futaba PCM radios due to extra features in the CAP7 / CAP9 models.
(Message edited by teamvertex on September 12, 2007)
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I have been very tempted to sell mine and go back to 40meg
How come? Just curious.
A few reasons,
- I dont like the ergonomics of the trasmitter. I generally like to hold my trasmitter more horizontally than vertically and the Dx6s screen then points away from me. It also doesnt feel as natural to me to hold.
- It doesnt have a seperate channel off the joysticks that allows variable control over a channel unlike the futaba 6ex which has channel 6 variable
- The receiver whilst being small is far to fragile. The pins look far to easy to bend unlike the futaba where they are protected. I am not running an ant weight so a bit of extra box around the receiver doesnt give me any head aches.
- They refer to the channels on the Tx and Rx as flaps, rudder etc. Fantastic if you have a plane. An extra headache to work out which channels to use. With a futaba its always channels 1 to 6 and beyond. Nice and simple for any model to use.
- The sticks on the transmiter are too stiff for my liking.
- They can say all they want that it is easy to program. Took me a good half hour (with the manual) to figure out how to put mixing between two channels. With a futaba I am done in seconds without the manual.
- The problems that gave me a real headache at the UK champs were not from my speedos as I had thought but from the spektrum.
The only thing that I feel that it has going for it is that I can control my bot from 150m away. Not a major advantage as futaba now have a 2.4ghz version of the 6ex. I dont believe it has failsafing on all channels but I cant see it being long before they have the option.
So if anyone from futaba is reading this then please get in contact about sponsorship :)
I dont like the ergonomics of the trasmitter. I generally like to hold my trasmitter more horizontally than vertically and the Dx6s screen then points away from me. It also doesnt feel as natural to me to hold.
You are ware you can bend the arial to hold it to whatever position? And i would not know why i would look at my TX while driving. Besides, angling (pointing the antenna to the robot, boat, heli, whatever) is actually very bad with a 40 MHz. You should have that one upright. Thats why a lot of antennas on bigger model TXs are already set at an angle because it is assumed you lay those flat in a cradle.
It doesnt have a seperate channel off the joysticks that allows variable control over a channel unlike the futaba 6ex which has channel 6 variable
All channels are proportinal, just remove 1 of the swithces and put in a pot or a button or slider or whatever.
The receiver whilst being small is far to fragile. The pins look far to easy to bend unlike the futaba where they are protected. I am not running an ant weight so a bit of extra box around the receiver doesnt give me any head aches
Poor the thing in cement. :) It does not matter for reception. Ive got mine in separate boxes, so that is no problem.
They refer to the channels on the Tx and Rx as flaps, rudder etc. Fantastic if you have a plane. An extra headache to work out which channels to use. With a futaba its always channels 1 to 6 and beyond. Nice and simple for any model to use.
The better TXs including futaba can also switch channels on stick (like mode 1 to mode 2). But I do agree that if you have a bot receiver it would make more sense to call it 1 2 3 4 5 6. But my FX18 has channel 1 and 4 on the left and 2 and 3 on the right standard.
They can say all they want that it is easy to program. Took me a good half hour (with the manual) to figure out how to put mixing between two channels. With a futaba I am done in seconds without the manual
Then you are a better programmer than I because I still need the manual on my Futaba FX18.
The problems that gave me a real headache at the UK champs were not from my speedos as I had thought but from the spektrum.
You are right about that, it should not be so far of the mark with other TXs.
The only thing that I feel that it has going for it is that I can control my bot from 150m away. Not a major advantage as futaba now have a 2.4ghz version of the 6ex. I dont believe it has failsafing on all channels but I cant see it being long before they have the option.
I contacted Robbe a while ago when they came out with their 2.4 system but they where in no hurry to alter anything with regards to failsafing.
So if anyone from futaba is reading this then please get in contact about sponsorship
I still have a nice FX18 if your interested.
(Message edited by leorcc on September 12, 2007)
Oh and a F14, Skysport 4, Skysport 6, and a Hitec Zebra (which is terrible).
And loads more but those are not 40 meg.
Leo some valid points but i am still not a fan of the Spektrum.
Thanks for the offers of futaba transmitters but I have got 3 that are sitting doing nothing at the minute but they may be resurrected and used in hornet 2 depending on how it performs with both a spektrum and a futaba.
Truth be told, Ive been tempted to put the TX module of the spektrum in my FX18, but that means really gutting the futaba and then I remember what i paid for it. :)
Oh by the way, ACT is jumping on the 2.4GHz bandwagon too. The do have some nice 35MHz txs, it would be cool if they use that casing. It is one of the best in terms of ergonomics.
cant believe im asking this, cant seem to set the spektrum to run new robot. want forwards/backwards left and right on right stick. plugged one into ail and one in ele. switched mixed wing on, but cant seem to get both motors running right, am i missing something! tried swapping the 2 plugs around but still no luck:angry:
(Message edited by ady on September 19, 2007)
Concentrate on getting foward and reverse correct... so if one motor is going the wrong direction swap the speed control supply wires over going to that motor.
I think the mixed wing setting is wrong. Try the v-tail mixer instead. If I am wrong dont be too harsh on me, please.
If you get it working post what you did here as I will be interested as I want to use it myself.
Trev
Ady ..are you now using a single stick ....as I recall you were previously using two sticks mixed?
Ill look back thru the threads...
Found it ....
http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/discus/messages/59/8742.htmlhttp://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/disc...s/59/8742.html
(Message edited by woody on September 19, 2007)
yes woody i am going with one stick now, i have put the spektrum on charge as it was starting to go flat. in a couple of hours i will try again and post once resolved. i have a feeling its something to do with the mixing also, as when i press the stick left or right one motor turns on its own, and when i press the stick forward the other motor turns on its own.
Yup .....Seems like the WRONG mix.
Well ...Ive looked it up Ady ....you appear to be using the only mix available for that stick.
Delta Wing ....
TO ACTIVATE DELTA-WING (DLT) MIXING (WING TYPE MODE)
1. In System Setup mode, press the SCROLL button until €œMIX WNG€ appears on the screen.
2. Press the DECREASE button to activate Delta-Wing Mixing.
If all else fails you could buy an inline V-Tail mixer.
when i press the stick left or right one motor turns on its own, and when i press the stick forward the other motor turns on its own.
Ummm ...Are you SURE that you have got the mix turned on?
What youve described suggests not.
The manual seems to have a conflict ...the picture says press INCREASE to activate Delta Wing ...the instructions say press DECREASE. ...Check that it says ON!
(Message edited by woody on September 19, 2007)
had a look but wil have to leave controls overnight, as they went flat again before i had chance to mess. its still the same forwards and back on 1 motor, left and right on the other motor. cant seem to work it out, never have this trouble normally, this is a unused BR reciever though, new one never used but i dont think its that. is it normally the wing or v tail mix thing you switch to on?
Ive just done a quick edit ...CHECK THE MIX IS
ON!
The screen should say ...
MIX +1>DLT
. +2>ON
(Message edited by woody on September 19, 2007)
mix dlt is on,
mix fpr is on?
mix wng is off
mix vtl is off
is this right, one thing i hate about these controls is flicking the switches to change things its so annoying , you always press the wrong one LOL
after messing a bit (dont know how lol) (just using the right stick now)when i press left the motors go forwards, and backwards when pressed right, and when pressing forward one motor turns left and one turns right, and opposite for backwards. i switched the ail and ele wires around on the rx but it didnt make any difference.
and also.... on my 2 electronizes one of them hasnt got the red wire connected (was like it when i got them 2nd hand) its always been disconnected but worked fine. its the wires that plug to reciever where you have a red,white and black. like i say never known why someone would disconnect one but they always worked fine in prodigy using the specktrum.
(Message edited by ady on September 19, 2007)
(Message edited by ady on September 19, 2007)
(Message edited by ADY on September 19, 2007)
And ...
Make sure youve turned your previous 2 stick V-Tail mix OFF!
still tried everything and attempted to reset controllers. then it got worse and was back to one motor working, just cant sort it out, i wonder if this new reciever is faulty, or if my controllers are knackered. leave it to another day. cheers guys
(Message edited by ady on September 19, 2007)
Well Ady .....Im new to this DX6 Mixing thing.
Ive dragged mine in from the shed ... followed the instructions .....pushed and prodded the buttons etc.
Once youve picked your options
..browse thru with your left scroll channel key ONLY ....eventually you should see that youve picked ONE of the 4 options WNG ,FPR ,VTL or DLT.
You want to see DLT.
You said ....
after messing a bit (dont know how lol) (just using the right stick now)when i press left the motors go forwards, and backwards when pressed right, and when pressing forward one motor turns left and one turns right, and opposite for backwards. i switched the ail and ele wires around on the rx but it didnt make any difference.
SO CLOSE.. In fact Im fairly sure that it wouldve been correct if you had swapped the ESC supply wires on the motor going the wrong way in fwd and reverse.
The red wire from the Electronize is the power supply to the receiver ....and it is correct ..you only need the one.
set my controllers so i could see DLT on. i changed the wires on both speedos. the yellow and blue that go from the speedo into the red and black which go to motors i swapped around. was it ok to do it this way as i thought it would be easier than unsoldering the motor wires? or do i need to unsolder the motor wires and swap them?
if this is ok it didnt make any difference, i still now have left and right make it go forwards and backwards, and forward and backwards controls left and right.
basically my ail and ele are the wrong way round if that makes sense. but swapping the plugs on the reciever didnt make any difference.
(Message edited by ady on September 20, 2007)
(Message edited by ady on September 20, 2007)
SWAP ONE MOTOR not TWO
Your fine swapping wires as you said but only ONE motor/speed controller....swap over the wires on the motor thats going in reverse when you push the stick in the fowards direction.
(Message edited by woody on September 20, 2007)
getting somewhere now woody, swapped wires on one motor, it now drives fine, all controls are going in the right direction. what seems to be happening now is though when you press forward the RIGHT motor starts moving alot sooner than the other. when you press reverse the LEFT motor starts first, so when your driving forward or reverse its pulling one way quite bad and wont go straight. its really bad at full speed. wondered if altering trims would do anything but didnt seem to make much difference.
Run through the speed controller setup again.
cheers Kane, they are electronize 15amp, their is 2 holes with a screw in, one is for full speed and the other is marked l,v,h. both controllers are currently set full clockwise (the max), i dont alter these, should i turn one down or something?
(Message edited by ady on September 20, 2007)
Yes ...Try altering the steering trim.
I initially do it like this.
Lift the bots wheels off the floor ....then ( leaving the sticks alone ) trim the forward/reverse direction till one wheel just rotates ... ok.. now use the steering trim till the other wheel matches ..I.E. Both just rotating....
Finally trim back the forward /reverse to neutral.
You should note the trim number just in case you wish to programme it in.
(Message edited by woody on September 20, 2007)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What woody said!
cheers guys, will try this evening and let you know.. one other thing i was thinking about, this robot is invertible and its my daughters. when she had a go at driving small torque i think it was called, if she got flipped she flicked a switch on the transmitter and it reversed all the controls, so even though it was upside down everything worked as normal (instead of being back to front) is it possible to do this with a spektrum.
cheers guys, done the trick, woody you have mail
It is a trick that amongst others Sidewinders have. with the flip channel on a TX switch, you can change forward/reverse so it drives the same upside down. Left/right does not change (doesnt need to).
btw, this trick can be done simply on skysport 4s by making the servo reverse switch at te bottom stick out so you can reverse that channel on the fly. on a Spektrum you would need to go into the program, which is not handy while driving. :)