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Dave has just noticed this contoller from Robot-solutions.com. Just wanted to know what people have heard or seen. We need a new solution for Turbulence. Dont think this will be a patch on a Vantec, but if it does all the things it says the fair enough.
What conerns me straight away is that the 80A per channel, doesnt say if it is continuous or peak.
We welcome peoples opinions.
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(Message edited by woody on December 13, 2006)
(Message edited by woody on December 13, 2006)
There is not much difference between de Sidewinder and the RS80D.
But the Sidewinder to me looks more durable and the casing is much better. The casing also reduces interference in the robot a lot more than the RS80D.
Apart from that the RS80D is heavier than a Sidewinder.
But it does have an AUX channel so that is a plus for the RS80D.
That and its price that is pretty good make the RS80D a nice controller. But I still prefer a Sidewinder.
But the saving in weight and little other things doesnt make up for the very large price difference!
im biased, in that i have in interest in sidewinders, but id say that having no repair service, or very limited at least, for the rs80d is a big negative.
my next sidewinder order is now going to be in the new year, so there is plenty of time to decide.
RS80D is cheaper and has more features. Also, in all honesty i dont think me or Ed trust Sidewinders in heavyweights just yet, seen to many blow up.
Ed- Had a reply from robot solutions about there suitibility to use in Turbulence:
750 W motors should be no problem for the RS80D. I believe there are a few people using the RS80D with those motors.
Also, in all honesty i dont think me or Ed trust Sidewinders in heavyweights just yet, seen to many blow up
thats a fair point Dave. Although there were reasons other that them simply not able to cope, such as the current limiter problem we corrected, it will take some time to earn back your trust.
I currently run wheely big cheese on a sidewinder, Leo runs a machine aswell, I think KAPOW either has one ready to install, or runs it at the moment. There are others too, but as you say, only performance in competiton proves the product, so i expect much more interest in 2007 as these sidewinders prove themselves.
What warranty do you offer on the sidewinders?
Being one of the roboteers who does run Sidewinders in heavies, so far I have blown 2 sidewinders before the current limit problem was fixed. But the first Sidewinder in Hannibal held on with 2 littons on 36V for nearly a year, and it took a broken gearbox and a litton with its wireing seezing up the motor to accomplisch the blows.
Apart from these blows that were not the sidewinders fault, Sidewinders have proven to be very reliable in all my robots. Big and small.
Dave had a (very) quick go driving Ka-Pow! at the weekend, with the Sidewinder installed, but response is currently a little sluggish due to installing a gyro at the same time and not having played with rates on the gyro or Tx yet. Given the set up issues it seemed fine to me, compared to the RobotEq at least.
Didnt blow up when i drove ka-pow to the other side of the arena, fair enough lol.
Way i see it the RS80D is the same speed controller with a weapons output, and cheaper.
Anyone know the peak current the RS80D can take? (i.e. during motor stalls)
Both controllers appear to use practically the same components so will likely perform very similar. However, I believe the sidewinder has better heaksinking so doesnt rely on a fan to keep everything cool. Fans dont respond well to shocks.
The RS80D has a thermal cut out. Also if it does start to overheat and turn itself off all the time then the heatsinks can be enlarged. Should be ok for a 3min fight.
Dave / Ed ... why not post your question on the RFL Forum?
Dont like posting the same quetion both sides- but i will do.
Is anyone importing the RS80s?
if not the palarver of getting stuff from the states might outweigh any price differential.. and as we know sometimes HM customs and excise are keen to remove any benefits...
I spoke to Brian from team logicom (phrizebee, the revolutionist and phrizebee-ultimate). He has a few 2nd hand ones (brand new and un-used) That was going to hopefully stop some customs charges as it would be classed as second hand or somthing.
Might have a lead on somthing else now though.
Two Aussie builders have blown RS80Ds in Featherweights... Due to the extremely high costs to rebuild them, they are moving on to Sidewinders as they are cheaper to get repaired and there is some support with them.
Mike Phillips in the US has stopped doing rebuilds on RS80Ds as they are to expensive to fix. If I was gonna spend the cash, Sidewinder would be my choice...