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ok simple - i need to build a robot that can fight and destroy my friends robots, i was thinking about an axe or flipper robot but i dont know how these could be designed . any help is appreciated please email me at hwharley@hotmail.com
we conform to official robot wars rules except we cant have anything flammable or may explode
hey harley, welcome to the forum.
it may help us to give you advice if you can let us know what sort of stuff you have done in the past, and what your mates robots are like. Also, what weight are you building to?
we should be able to give you better help if we know more. :)
best of luck
ive done nothing in the past and at this time absolutley nothing is finalised or even started as this is coursework (sigh) we must doo all paper work first - weight restriction i havent thought about
best make the weight your first decision.
i reccomend the 12kg class, as everything is cheaper (well, in theory anyway)
100kg is a great weight class, but is 10 times the workload and is a transport nightmare without help.
Hey Harley come to a live event , make yourself know to one of us and check out the Bots
see the live events section
well although i said that we would conform - as we are only young people our argument will probably be com paring one that is the size of a rc car and the other the size of a real robot that has participated in robot wars - yours is twice the size of mine i aint doing this
if yours is a toy car, the robots youve seen on tv are 100 times the weight/size.
i dont plan to build an rc car i plan to build a full size one but i dont know about weight as we wont weight them anyway. mine could weigh 50kg and my friends 10 and we would still fight.
Best try to build something to for? http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/rules.htmFRA
systems and control
we plan to use robot wars rules
http://members.toast.net/joerger/rules/RW6_rules.htmlhttp://members.toast.net/joerger/rules/RW6_rules.html
they are listed here
we havent told our teacher that flamthrowers are disallowed but it also depends if we meet his safety criteria.
any basic weapon ideas with ways to hook them up would be nice
Harley,
Before you build anything please download and read carefully the current FRA build rules, they will answer most of your questions.
http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/rules.htmhttp://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/rules.htm
and as Tony from bulldog says, get along to one of the many live events around the country so you can see what actualy goes on!
Details of these can be found in the Live Events section of this forum.
Infomation on live events is also available here..
http://www.roamingrobots.co.ukhttp://www.roamingrobots.co.uk
Also
http://www.extremefightingmachines.co.ukhttp://www.extremefightingmachines.co.uk
Good luck and whatever you build, do it safely!
Geoff Smith,
Chairman,
Fighting Robot Association.
Systems and control GCSE I assume? Well, if your teacher is letting you do it, go for it.
Robot Wars finished a couple of years back, so following those rules would be a little strange when the currently recognised FRA rules (see Geoffs link above) are much more up-to-date and are used by 99% of UK live events. Have a look at the link and youll see that the rules are structured much like the Robot Wars rules.
You shouldnt be using flame throwers anyway for a first build certainly, Id suggest that something that you can work with electronically (along the lines of the Systems and Control requirements) such as an electric actuator powered lifter would be ideal, best keep it as simple as possible.
Best go for a featherweight (12kg). Try to get to a live event sometime to check out how things are done.
Harley - where are you guys based ?
Ed
http://www.teamstorm.comhttp://www.teamstorm.com
You shouldnt be using flame throwers anyway for a first build certainly,
Harly, you shouldnt be using flame throwers AT ALL!!!
(FRA Build Rule 12.7 to 12.7.3.3 refers)
careful geoff, ewan will yawn at you :)
the reason i wanted a flame thrower was just to look good. and since my robot will never participate in a real event (unless heavily modified) i never really thought about the rules my teacher just said lay something down for a good basis but i will definatly look at these rules .
btw me and my mate are on a team our name ?
ThunderSheep
Please leave comments about name
oh yea im based in england , north yorks
Harley, if you are need of help I got A* in both practical and written areas of the Systems and Control course. Ive also built a robot, so if you need any help on either of those subjects, get in touch with me. :)
/arrogance :wink:
Just remember the FRA rules are in place for safety reasons rather than restricting our fun. I would personally advise following them, whether your are building a combat robot or not. If you are going to build a flamethrower system, please research about it thoroughly before going ahead. And remember to ask here first if you are even slightly unsure about something.
Good luck with the project... :)
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i know that rules are there for safety but i am definatly researching this project heavily. so far i need to ( if im allowed ) to find a fuel that cannot blowback or explode.
p.s i would like some help on the written aspects of this as i need 16 a3 pages on this
If it is for a project, consider the following:
a) Brainstorming - gets you good marks for ideas that look good on paper but that you should realise are not feasable for safety/ practicality grounds
b) Projects have to be completed within a timeframe... make sure you can finish it
c) A heavyweight robot is expencive, difficult to move and extremely dangerous.
d) A featherweight robot is much cheeper, easy to move and can be built safely (and much quicker).
e) Antweights are even cheeper, can be put in a pocket and still incorporate some serious firepower and technology.
Ants are cheaper? What did i do wrong then? :mrgreen:
the normal ants are cheaper :)
your OTT-one isnt
True, but even normal ants compared to other robots have a very high euro or GBP per gram price. Even the cheaper ones.
In comparison, for the same price per gram, my heavy would have cost 267.000 euros. :)
(Yes I know it is not a fair comparison :) )
(Message edited by leo-rcc on June 07, 2006)
stay on topic please
i have a roughly a year now to write and build and destroy.
my biggest problem is weapon ideas
Thats easy.
active weapons:
spinner
Axe
lifter
flipper
crusher
Passive:
Rambot
Twackbot
I wouldnt even think about including any pirotechnics in there.
If I were you, I would go with the lifter, nice and controlled and relatively easy to manufacture.
stay on topic please
i have a roughly a year now to write and build and destroy.
my biggest problem is weapon ideas
I think people have given you a good starting point, Leos post above for example. If you need any more help, I suggest you begin to make decisions as to what you actually want, and we can advise accordingly, and be a little more polite to those trying to help you.
Best of luck
ive not heard of a twack bot or a lifter .
there is no rules in the match it will be a fight to the immobilisation so i think i will need an active weapon and ive always liked axes so how can i give my axe enough striking power
Twackbot - a robot usually equipped with a static swinging weapon (like an axe) and the robot spins on the spot clubing the weapon into the opponent. Stinger is most famous for this, but can also be acheived in the style of BonX.
Lifter - basically an electric flipper. Uses an electric motor or actuator to lift an arm up. Has unlimited shots unlike a pneumatic system. Off the top of my head I cant think of any famous lifters, but one of the best is Rampage.
If its a battle to immobilisation, youll probably want to go along the Terrorhurtz design if youre going with axes. This involves a pneumatics setup and rack and pinion mechanism to drive the axe. An electric axe will be more of a clamper and wont to as much damage.
Hope that helps. :)
thwackbot.... a very simple way to make a powerful electric axe without spending money on a 3 channel radio.
lifter, panic attack, biohazzard, 2 very good lifters. the descriptions in the name. they lift.
If you intend making a combat robot, and want FRA members help, could I suggest you at least consider reading our build rules? Its a little insulting to be asked to give you all the answers when many are available simply by reading our information and guides. We wrote them to help people get into robot combat in a safe way, so if we are going to be spending all this time answering vague questions, at least put some effort in yourself and read the stuff people spent time writing.
no offense, just trying to guide you down the right path for most enjoyment.
agreed with jamess first point. Thwack bots are easy to make and depending on how you have it can be very effective and put on a good show. We use both types for our kits. the normal horizontal hammers for spinning on the spot and then the vertical one which given the correct balence and wheel size, when the machine accelerates forward the bot will flip over stinger style. Quite impressive.
http://http://robotwars.demon.nl/images/twackbots.jpghttp://http://robotwars.demon.nl/images/twackbots.jpg
Here is an example of both an horizontal Twackbot, called Bonx, and a vertical one called Debiel. There is a dutch word joke in the latter name, but im not explaining it. :) The Axe on Debiel works on the idea that you slam the robot from one direction into the other, flipping over the axe.
(Message edited by leo-rcc on June 10, 2006)