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Does anyone else think robots are gay? Also, they are not really robots, are they guys? Just radio controlled cars with some metal strapped to them. Maybe you should all move out of your mums basements and look for girlfriends. Oh, by the way, shave the beards off first eh? Robots arent cool and neither are you.
Hi, and welcome to the FRA :proud:
Hey :proud:
erm... Hi alex :) (*cough Admin delete im cough*)
hey mate, so life so dull you started going to site for things you dont like? man, you must be sad and lonely.
robots gay? never thought of that? at least there are no problems with them making minibots while you are away on holiday :)
Since weve clearly found someone whos from outside the roboteering community...
Martijn: One of the concerns of the fighting robot community at the moment is attracting public interest - and, therefore, overhauling some of the stereotypes. For myself, Ive never felt the need to conform (although I dont have a beard, I do have a fiancee, and my mother - may she rest in peace - never had a basement), but I acknowledge that public relations is not based on the same things as a happy life.
Care to tell us what would need to change for you to consider robots, er, cool? I gather youd be more interested if we put some AI on the bots?
I presume you dont mean gay literally, by the way. I have no idea, but I presume the proportion of gay roboteers is about the same 1 in 10 as the rest of the population? An unusually large number of my fellow tiddlywinks players are gay (although still very much a minority of them), but Im reasonably sure thats a coincidence... As for the robots themselves, well, Im not sure weve got them self-replicating yet.
Ironically, someone decided to fill in the contact me form on my website with some insults, yesterday. Just when I was expecting an interesting discussion... Im still deciding whether to reply to the posting to ask what it was to which they were objecting.
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Btw, out of interest, who *does* have the largest (& heaviest) disk? Ignoring for now the issue of kinetic energy, which is harder to quantify.
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storm vortex
no :proud:
dont know
Storm Vortex is a Feather though, isnt it?
would that be us then?
13kg disc on typhoon thunder?
O and my girlfriend is interested in robots Alex, so much so she was at the filming of series 7 :proud:
Depends if FBS is counted as a disc
I have two words for this Alex Miller w****r but unfortunately admin would revoke my posting rights :proud:
Ah, thats what this forum has been missing - a good troll! Er, well, its still missing one. Come on Alex, that sort of message might have worked in 1996 but if you want to wind people up today youll have to be a bit more subtle about it.
Tsk - wasted opportunity. If we call Alex names were hardly going to get any information out of him, are we? If the public think were dull, Id like to see how we can improve matters. (Not that I care in general, but if we ever want to get a TV series again...) Most people will tell us something polite that they think wed like to hear; it appears that Alex doesnt suffer from this failing.
To clarify: sorry, I meant the largest/heaviest spinner (fbs on no) on a feather. Presumably Vortexs is fast rather than particularly huge (and the same is true of Scorpion Junior). I saw Dizzy Tilly (FBS) at Debenham, but the shell looked quite thin.
Martijn - sorry to have directed any of my previous posting at you; it was supposed to be at Alex, I just missed when scanning the poster names!
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For a start, do we call you Alex Miller or Andy Coates? :proud:
Sorry if Im a bit cynical, but Ive seen this type of post on every forum, newsgroup and online game since modems had acoustic couplers. If Alex does continue this discussion, I will retract my earlier comments.
e-mail him and find out... be careful of those horrible viruses that might attach themselves though. I hate it when that accidentally happens.
I would say Black guard had the biggers spinner. it is 800mm long. After that Tantrums 3kg 500mm half bar half disc is right up there (is there bigger?) and when it was a full 5.5kg 500mm disc it must have held the record for a while at least.
I think it is possible to make bigger in a featherweight, but is there any need? it makes them more unweildly and there are better ways to get a bigger smack.
so for me, Black Guard is the biggest Ive seen, though Ewan did test a 1m one I never saw it in action.
Jim: Dont worry, me too (back to the Acorn/Amiga advocacy newsgroups, at least). Still, no harm in asking. Better the devil you know and all that. Besides, if hes trying to flame us, I dont think rising to it will help. Ive always maintained that a sustained policy of politely entering into discussion with people is the most frustrating response I can make.
As an aside: I have a (very out of date) page with a few inventions on my web site, and amongst the various forms of feedback I get, I had a chat with a kid from Australia. He made a number of facetious invention suggestions, some of which already existed (in some shape or form - e.g. square bubbles and left-handed screwdrivers), and some of which could be interpreted as damn good (in the not sticking it on my web site in case I can patent this sense) ideas. You never know what you can gain from anyone, and the thing about getting gold from the mouth of an idiot is that hell rarely notice hes giving away a filling. (Note to self: dont over-stretch metaphors so much...)
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I had a 1m one (featherweight)... but the spin-up was pathetic (about 12secs). And driving around tryig to spin up without touching any bot or arena wall wouldve been a pain in most event arenas...
- Does anyone else think robots are gay? -
Hmm... could be another reason for ramming other robots into the arena wall, apart from to damage them. :-P
- Maybe you should all move out of your mums basements and look for girlfriends. Oh, by the way, shave the beards off first eh? -
I have a basement?! *looks for it*
Look for girlfriends... *turns around* Finished
I had a beard?!
Tut tut... he didnt do his research on me did he?
Ouch. Sounds like Gary may have the current weight record (until the Why Not feather clones appear - only just discovered that I shouldnt have been calling it Y Not... oops; never mind, I still think navbots are a daft idea...)
Out of interest, how heavys Ziggos shell?
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We have a 4kg Son Of Whyachi style spinner that can go on Annihilation which is 75cm in diameter with three hammers. It also has a pretty good spin up time if you have a look here: http://www.abbl.org/~teamvertex/site/videos/newrotor.wmvhttp://www.abbl.org/~teamvertex/site...s/newrotor.wmv
ah well artemis currently is running a 1m 6kg bar of a mini mag and whyachi gearbox. its going to get an 800mm blad in the final version and hopefully an increase in weight on the blade
6kgs on Omicron, maybe a little more when its balanced.
Ziggo,s shell is 10.8 kg .
oh yeah, forgot to say, I have a full body spinner called half-wit which is 12.2kg of spinning naughtyness.
Is that the record then?
robots gay
have you ever seen a robot in your puney existance alex?
Yes he has
sorry james but we have the record, 13kg :)
13kg spinner in a 12kg class? humm... not legal that. :)
Sorry, but we have infact beaten you all :) Thwackbot T2M being used as a melti brain translational spinner is a full 12kg spinner :proud:
o im sorry i thought we were still on light weight spinners.........my bad!
humm... sceptical there Aaron, ill bet a few grammes of it doesnt rotate or you are a whizz with the electronics. how does that work then?
Translational spinners do have everything rotating. Think of a 2-wheeled bot spinning on the spot, then speed it up a bit. You move around the arena by making very brief adjustments to the wheels steering or speed. Y-Pout is an example.
Theyre also a myth, Y-Pout uses a smaller inner nav-bot.
*Still believes a true spin-drive system is impossible*
Well its not, cos CycloneBot has managed it to some success. And at a lesser cost, too. Thats unless you count smoking out three mags in one day LOL
Another true example of a translational spinner is Teslas Tornado. Its been around for quite a while and won two fights at Battlebots season 4.0.
Interesting thing is it uses an infra red based remote with sensors on either side of the bot which it uses as a reference direction.
http://mchargue.org/William/BattleBot/http://mchargue.org/William/BattleBot/
Id also be interested to hear how T2M works.
I used to think translational spinners were the way forward because they could potentially allow you to have large amounts of energy stored and still be very manouverable with a powerful omnidirectional drive system. I looked into it more and found its not physically possible though. Motors just have too much inertia to change their speed significantly as the bot rotates and youre limited by only having your wheels pointing in the right direction half the time. Im sure theyll work with some success in the future but theyre never going to be particularly effective IMHO.
Trying to pull this thread back on topic; the heaviest disk I can think of is Backlashs at 7kg.
Theres probably heavier but it depends if you class them as a disk. I used the Big Bang teams site cause its got the specs of most good American spinners on there:
http://www.geocities.com/bigbangrobotics/testspin.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/bigbangrobotics/testspin.htm
Mark
T2M is a twack bot. Not exactly High Tech.
Regards
Ian
I can see why people would say that electric motors would have too much inertia to just quickly switch off and back on to a useful translational spinner. At 600rpm abd with the wheel being turned off for about 30 degrees of the rotation thats about 0.008333 seconds that the motor has to be off for, and at 10 times a second too. Even if you turned the motor off for 180 degrees thats 0.05 seconds. The motor wouldnt have enough time to get much slower. The only this sort of robot would work is if it only spun about 200rpm and thats boring.
Maybe a central wheel that touched the floor at the center of rotation that you turned on when it was facing the right way for about 30 degrees might work, but youll only do it every5 or so revolution other wise the constant turn on current would fry something (like mag motors).
But Ive got an idea. Why not use a single internal combustion engine and feed that into a differental gearbox then to the wheels. You need to add an ideler gear to one side to get the wheels spinning in oppiste directions. You then add a fast acting break to one side thats able to engage and release in 0.008333 seconds (OK, Im still dreaming) which will lock one wheel and speed the other up giving you translational motion. The added bonus is the engine will alway remain running at one speed during the movement.
And Aaron, why havnt I seen T2M translate? You still owe mw a re-match with T2M too.
lmao. T2M is a stinger style thwack bot, but it cannot attack vertical. I just full body spin it and adjust the radio sticks so one wheel is slower then ther other and it translates in an elliptical pattern. Tot high tech, but the full body mass rotates, with the current mods on T2M it weighs about 13kg, we have to drill some holes out of it. Removing the 3kg 7amp and replacing it with a small 3amp or 4 drill NiCD packs will solve this problem.
Daniel, anyday mate, bring your bot and well rumble. Just remember, we have a wedge and traction now :proud: