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Double Trouble
Hi,
A certain young man who spent the whole of yesterday in the pits at Gadget Show Live has definitely caught the fighting robot bug and has put competing next year with his own robot onto his bucket list.
What he didn't realise at the time was that James was going to allow him to take Double Trouble home at the end of the day (minus all the loaned motors, wheels etc). So his first learning project is reinstating the drive system and this is where I missed a trick yesterday by not asking enough questions about the donated components.
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Does any body remember what was put on Double Trouble or alternative suggestions or recommended specifications? I think he needs to reinstate 2 x motor/gearbox/wheels, 2 x motor controller, a kill switch and the RC transmitter/receiver combo.
Thanks for this and all the encouragement given yesterday.
S.
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Hi and welcome to the community.
Make sure u read lots of the build posts
To get a good feel of things. Every one who has posted against any
Comments i put have been very encouraging.
Andy
Edit. Im new here too and am learning too.
I've got some 18v drill motors and tx85a speedos to hack.
Thats my powerplant.
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What it was using was a couple of cordless drill motors (I'm not sure on the voltage) with mounts that Robochallenge used to make commercially and a couple of electronize speed controllers and Spektrum radio gear. I can't remember what else there was in there, but pretty much all the parts are transferable with other similar parts that it won't matter too much what you go with.
Easiest way to get t going might be to ask if there are any of those mounts that anyone has that they're looking to get rid of, so that you don't need to do much fabrication or anything, then it's a case of fitting some modified drills (below)
http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/7112946.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:14507206137%7Cts id:59130%7Ccid:265006737%7Clid:18283950120%7Cnw:g% 7Ccrid:73382240337%7Crnd:3491518176051077008%7Cdvc :m%7Cadp:1o1%7Ckw:&gclid=COPn55ed9csCFcWVGwodpF8Aa g
and speed controllers, again it used Electronize, but the commonly used TZ85s (link below)
http://ranglebox.com/product/botbitz...2-brushed-esc/
would work just as well.
Wheels are a difficult one at the moment, there doesn't seem to be any simple way of doing it and I can't remember what size it was using anyway. Radio equipment is a matter of choice really, as long as it is 2.4GHz it should work. The kill switch for it is the Deans Connector just above the robot wars sign on the back of the robot, I'm not sure how it's wired exactly so the wiring for the drive might be connected to that one too, or you could just have another one the same next to it for drive.
It looks like you'll need a battery and charger too if everything is in that photo?
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In the end it wasn't using drill motors as they were struggling for power with the weight over the front of the robot. I believe a pair of 18v 775 motors, attached to "P60" Banebots gearboxes were actually used, which as we saw gave it loads of power. I was driving the little white and black robot called Tormenta in our competition. James is clearly a natural!
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Double Trouble drivetrain
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Thanks for all the information. That will definitely give us a good starting point for sourcing parts next weekend.
S.
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Ranglebox (Owned by Ellis) do the 'Saturn' motor and gearbox combo which will be a perfect replacement for the motors that were used in Double Trouble :)
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Hi, I built and own a fw clusterbot called double trouble, people try and not call robots by the same name as someone else's for less confusion, it's a gentlemens agreement between roboteers :-)
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ady
Hi, I built and own a fw clusterbot called double trouble, people try and not call robots by the same name as someone else's for less confusion, it's a gentlemens agreement between roboteers :-)
I don't think such things were considered by my son when he named it. Given the minor rule infringement of being 50% overweight (still 17.9kg without motors, gearboxes, wheels and battery) then this Double Trouble will retire from active combat and live its life out as a minor celebrity amongst his friends (if he ever tells them what he got up to at the weekend) :-)
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Ok no probs. nothing personal just a polite note to say that robot name exists elsewhere :-)
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Hey and welcome! There will be plenty of info on here for you to look through- in the mean time, admire that top cover which an unnamed strapping young man made ;)
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Just a different name to consider: Suited aces
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Just an alteration would be great :-) if the robot was dead and buried then no probs but I'm currently rebuilding it over the summer to compete in fw comps soon
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Hi,
I just been informed from a friend that the circumstances surrounding this robot and it's name leaves me With no issues whatsoever with using this name.
Should we meet in combat or the same event all I ask is you to alter it slightly :-) my clusterbot needs 2 drivers so maybe you can help me out ;-)
Happy roboteering friend
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Ellis
I believe a pair of 18v 775 motors, attached to "P60" Banebots gearboxes were actually used, which as we saw gave it loads of power.
Correct. 18V 775 motors with 16:1 "P60" gearboxes on 5 inch colson wheels. It was powered from 6S Lipo batteries. I would alternatively recommend a Saturn or 4 inch wheels.
My Thumper robot was the donating machine.
If we're talking about losing weight on the machine, those disc bearings were rather excessively heavy.
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James is clearly a natural!
Fantastic driving considering the lack of prior experience. It would be nice to see him about the live circuit.
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Double Trouble was great! Well driven and always great to see a saw blade on the front of a robot, don't often get ones like that these days!
As a standard setup, Saturn-16s with 775 motors, TZ85 speed controllers and a 5 Cell Lipo battery would cover any sort of power requirements - robots like Legion use this setup and are quick! I'd advise against running 6 Cells still because the motors are 18v, 6 Cell lipos are 22.2v and the motors don't seem to like that for too long. A set of those and 4" wheels would be an excellent drive train. The motors and speed controllers are both available from Ranglebox.com (Ellis should have me on commission at this point...) and the batteries should be available from hobbyking.com. I would recommend reading up on lipos before investing though, since they can be dangerous if not used correctly.
Wheels are a tad trickier and may be a custom job, though there's people on this forum that make things like that for reasonable prices
Of course help is always to hand too if ever you need it on this forum - despite the fact that we actually fight each other every weekend or so, we are actually a kind and helpful bunch haha
Best of luck with the build!
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My Saturn-16 gearboxes and 775 motors will indeed do the job (although they may run fairly hot with the weight of the machine). I'm currently out of S-16 stock, with new stock on the way. It'll be a little while I'm afraid - the champs event and a few other things have disturbed normal scheduling. They'll be available again soon!
