3.2mm Hardox 450

Although the rumours that 3.2mm Hardox is no longer available, I called SSAB Swedish Steel here in the Netherlands and they have sheets of 2.5x8.5m of Hardox 450 on stock in Belgium. And a new batch of 3.2mm thick sheets of 2.5x6m is produced end of December / beginning of Januari.

Same as 3,5 years ago, if there is enough interest then I will buy a sheet of 2.5x8.5m and cut it in 14 sheets of 1x1.5m.
Last time I used an angle grinder to cut up the big sheet, but now I plan to use a plasma cutter. Therefore the edges will be a little bit more rough. If the sheets tend to bend to much because of the heat input, then I will use the angle grinder again instead.

So for sale:
Hardox 450, 3.2mm thick
size 1x1.5m
£118,- per sheet (excluding postage costs)

They can be picked up here in the Netherlands, or I can bring it to an event next year.
As an alternative I can have a look how much costs to drive to the south of England and drop it off at someone who can distribute it among the buyers.

If there are 12 sheets reserved, then I will order the sheet. Since this morning 5 are reserved.
Please respond tuesday at latest, because of the validity of the SSAB Quotation.

I'm definitely with it and take two plates, see GRA Forum PN! ;)

I am definitely interested if you can get them to the south of Uk

Interested here as well, possibly 2 sheets of 1x1.5m. Where are you based?

"They can be picked up here in the Netherlands"

Indeed I am located in the Netherlands near Eindhoven. Normally Portsmouth would be the first event for me in England next year, but if we split a bit of the costs then in Januari I might be able to go to the event in Londen, which is mentioned on the Robotwars website.
I will try to work out a proposal tomorrow, and send a PM to those who have a sheet reserved.

All 14 sheets are now reserved, of which 11 confirmed and 3 are still "possibly". Of these 3 sheets 1 is reserved for Shakesc and 1 for Eventorizon. Anyway the large sheet will be ordered wednesday morning.

If at the end of tuesday there will be requests for atleast 12 more confirmed sheets, then 2 large sheets can be ordered.
First reservation is the 2nd "possibly" sheet for Eventorizion.

Put me down for one.

Put me down for a sheet please

Put us down for a sheet please

You all should think of different ways to armour robots..hardox has ruined the sport enough.

If Hardox and equivalent ware-steels were banned people would move to Titanium or something else. Everyone would start using that and the current situation would re-assert itself. Entanglement weapons are banned which would stop spinners, which are the very reason Hardox is used with easy access to brushless motors..

I am not sure it has ruined the sport. Yes its not as entertaining as total destruction but none of us really want to be sweeping up our machine or taking the bits home in a box... I have done both. There will be a development or new idea soon enough that forces a change, everyone will adapt then it will be a while before it changes again.

I am confident that Grant's new axe-bot and Sam's replacement for NST will make even the Hardox bricks think again about their construction.

'I might be able to go to the event in London, which is mentioned on the Robotwars website.'

I can't find any January 2014 event in London on the website.

www.robotwars.tv/live London model exhibition.

If someone wants to split a sheet with me I may be interested

maybe !!! I like aluminium as cheap and easy to work but hardox does allow for a exoskeleton design, making more shapes and designs possible with less bracing, but on the other hand even the mighty Thor struggles to damage it. I don't wont ceros to get battered but damage also carries its own charm. in my opinion

I agree with Tem Event horizon. To compete you have to evolve you designs. If you ban certain materials then you will probably find machining techniques taking their place. I have limited maching tools and very impressed by some of the latest work. It doesnt stop me evolving and trying to improve my designs. What generally stops me is time. Therefore sweeping up my robot after an event is a bigger setback than replacing a burnt out standard part. Thats why I have reserved a hardox plate - to grt more life out of the robot chassis plus given the tools I have I can cut / weld / drill the stuff

A feather weight with hardox armour is still beatable, i guess it differs with heavies especially without hw spinners about

Im still 8 reservations short to be able to order that 2nd sheet. So I might have to disappoint a few people.
Is there anyone else interested? Shane maybe? :)

I'd be interested if it was UK postage but my other issue is that i'm moving house atm which is expensive as it is. If the second sheet could wait a month or two post xmas etc I would take a sheet

I'd take a sheet!

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Originally Posted by calumco

A feather weight with hardox armour is still beatable, i guess it differs with heavies especially without hw spinners about

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Flippers don't care about armor.

All about the landing !

On a more serious point just wondered how the ordering process was going

Chris

Apologies for my late reply. I just got home from an unforseen trip to Germany for my work.
Tomorrow morning I will order only one 2.5x8.5m sheet, because I do not have enough reservations for a 2nd sheet.
I am very sorry, but having to keep 9 out of 14 sheets (± £1000,-) on stock myself is too much. That are 7 too many.

Adz600, Shakesc, Eventorizion, for each of you I have one 1x1.5m sheet available if you want.
Im having a holiday the first 2 weeks of Januari and will find a few days to come to the UK during this time, instead of going to the event in Londen. But I still need to work out some proposal for transport. Shakesc, Eventorizion could you please send me a PM with your adress? Adz600 already send me his and I would like to have a look how much distance there is between you 3.


We can try to repeat this combined purchase again at the end of Januari/beginning of Februari, when there should be a new batch of the smaller 2.5x6m sheets at SSAB. Then there need to be only 3 more reservations instead of 7. Based on the posts in this thread, the people first in line are:
Eventorizon 1x
Psychostorm 1x
Calumco 1x
Team Invade 1x
Chriskazoo 1x
Typhoon driver (maybe?)

Would this be ok with you guys?

It was expected tomorrow, but it already arrived today at the end of the afternoon.
Tomorrow I will try to get some better pictures.

https://picasaweb.google.com/Jeroenvdlo/HardoxNov2013

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Originally Posted by tough_as_nails

We can try to repeat this combined purchase again at the end of Januari/beginning of Februari, when there should be a new batch of the smaller 2.5x6m sheets at SSAB. Then there need to be only 3 more reservations instead of 7. Based on the posts in this thread, the people first in line are:
Eventorizon 1x
Psychostorm 1x
Calumco 1x
Team Invade 1x
Chriskazoo 1x
Typhoon driver (maybe?)

Would this be ok with you guys?

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This is fine by me :)

Pending new prices, show me as interested.

We will buy another piece if the order goes ahead.

I'm still in for a sheet

any idea as to when you want the money and how we are getting the hardox yet

Eventorizon, have you seen the PM I have send you?

Who are you and why should I trust you with my money?

A single post on a forum with no real name doesn't exactly scream "trust me"

A smart arsed answer. I won't be doing business with you

£110= €145.
For €140 you have 1.5m² brandnew 3.2mm Hardox 450.

Also, SSAB doesn't sell Hardox or simular material to steel-sheet sellers. They prefer to deal with the professional users.

Picked up my sheet from Jeroen
Thanks again, hope it went well at Portsmouth

I'm happy for you James53.2 , but with 4m² (@£30 per 500*500) in my garden I don't believe I'll go for your "sale".