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I didnt realise Kan Opener was testing them too. When were they added. I wouldnt want Andy to have an advantage over thor and put some extra armour on. Andy can you confirm that you wont be running them at the champs, or youll be carrying ballast to make up any weight advantage ?
why would this matter?? some teams have bot packs rather than SLAs so there lighter and can fit more in the robot i dont see it has a unfair advantage
Because we are allowed to use botpacks. The use of A123 in heavies is not allowed for everyone yet.
In such a high profile competition with such a high prize fund at stake I dont believe that A123s should be used at all. If they aint in the rules then they shouldnt be used and everyone should play to the same ruleset, favouritism in a full combat competition should not be tolerated.
If they were available for general use they would be in Hive.
Not happy.
i argee with gary now has i hadnt understood the points being made till the last few posts
how bout whiteboard fights ok, but comp not?
These points have been discussed.
The bottom line is the cells MUST be tested in a full combat competition the preparation of which has been over 10 months and involved a lot of time and effort behind the scenes.
The fact that these cells are not available for general use is the specific reason that they need to be thoroughly tested for both safety and performance. Furthermore, the advantages these cells offer are easily countered to ensure a level playing field for competition.
While these cells offer a potential benefit to the community in general, this can only be seen with the ongoing commitment from a few individuals. And the patience of several others.
The generalised use of these cells can only been seen after they have been tested extensively in full combat competition. Of which I am sure, we will all be keeping a close eye on.
The fact that these cells are not available for general use is the specific reason that they need to be thoroughly tested for both safety and performance
Your above statement is incorrect ..... they are available and in general use.
37 pages of posts on this forum starting Sept 06
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573927http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573927
Suppliers of A123 packs..... There are more.
http://www.first-products.de/katalogenglisch.htmhttp://www.first-products.de/katalogenglisch.htm
http://bigerc.com/index.php?cPath=21_39&osCsid=6193ce799a989c68edad5 b1728b5a53ahttp://bigerc.com/index.php?cPath=21...ad5b1728b5a53a
I totally understand that a Fighting Robot isnt an aeroplane but there appears to be NO bad press on the safety issue and safety is the ONLY issue ...suitability ....as far as performance goes ...isnt an FRA concern.
Looking forward to their ratification.
Woody
(Message edited by woody on August 14, 2007)
Woody, that quote needs to be taken in context to Garys post. For clarification, general use refers to their general use in fighting robots and not general availability.
Pff.. what the people testing the new battery packs should do is paint an extra sign on their robots: 4 the sake of science hit me Xtra hard plz !
We all strive to incorporate nifty innovations into our robots in order to get the upper hand on our opponents. This is just one of them. The fact that these battery packs are as yet not available for all of us is just temporarily. It sucks if it helps a few privileged win the big game but then, you know the proverb: if you cant take the joke you shouldnt have signed up.
Lets just test those packs in the most maximized maximum endurance test we have. But I expect a final report right after this event and a definite yay/nay for the use of those packs.
I stand corrected on taking the general use out of context.
But my last statement is still valid.
I totally understand that a Fighting Robot isnt an aeroplane but there appears to be NO bad press on the safety issue and safety is the ONLY issue ...suitability ....as far as performance goes ...isnt an FRA concern