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number of testes conducted
Now now James, family forum :wink:
Very interesting discussion!
James B has a very good point about the testing. This needs to be clarified.
Safety has to be paramount to everyone involved in roboteering from 14 year old newbies to experienced EOs. Lets hope this doesnt split the EOs at home and abroad.
No need for me to finish my feather spinner any time soon then (a least this year for the events i was thinking of attending).
Post No 316 from a non member.
jamie....
after spending so long writing it
and you spending that long reading it.
THAT is what stands out to you????
awesome. love it! :)
:crazy:
MY view.
It would appear that there is some sort of imperical evidence to support the shortcomings of some arenas.
BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS STATEMENT FOLLOWS:-
If the current arena construction is incapable of containing certain types of bot and the debris from them ....then that type of bot cannot be run.
COMMERCIAL SIDE:-
It would be commercial suicide for the E.O.s if a serious accident occurred ..... Theyd become uninsurable and no venue would have them / us.
I believe that the FRA actually backs the EOs in their approach to gaining insurance by certifying the suitability of the arena? ..... So the FRA needs to retain its credibility if we wish them to continue representing the Roboteering communities interests.
ROBOTEERING SIDE
It would also sound the Death Knell for the sport of Roboteering if such an accident occured.
So basically Im in favour of the safety measures .... The obvious solution is a better arena/s ..... The cost OUCH!
Woody .... Membership subscription posted today.
Well done Woody, some common sense shown.
The first the FRA cannot certify arenas. For instance we cannot control the quality of their welding hence the term Guidelines
The event organisers approved these measures themselves as they know there is a potential problem. Yes there is a cost to the event organisers. For most of them it is not unreasonable.
Arena guidelines have not changed since just after Robot Wars stopped filming.
The robots themselves have moved on considerably.
Besides the obvious problems that have been discussed fairly openly, we know of 206 more reasons why something had to give.
Featherweights are heading for the power of heavy weights.
The 206 is the miles per hour of a 500mm bar spun up on the end of a lem motor and all in 12KG
Andy
Try 226 mph with 3hp and all in 12kg
was done 3 years ago... wheres the problem?
not a LEM, but over 300mph, and 500mm diameter.
weight of disk? mine was 2.1kg
if anyone wants a demo ill get one done.
James,
For gods sake give it a rest will you, if you dont see the problem, then I have to seriously question if you even understand what the FRA in conjunction with the event organisers are trying to do here for all our benifit.
As a voting member of our govening body I would have expected better from you!
Geoff Smith,
Chairman, FRA.
as a voting member of our governing body I would have hoped to have had a say in endorsing safety tests conducted on the behalf of the FRA.
If it is in any way unclear, I will make it very clear right now.
My insurance company have told me that they do not know of the FRA, and do not care what your guidelines are. I must satisfy the that I have ensured any arena I sign off as safe is suitable and sufficient for its purpose. This is a legal term.
Rather than rely on the finding of individuals without questioning their methods or reasons, I am, at my own expence, commissioning an independant ballistics test of various thicknesses of polycarbonate. If the FRA do not see my problem, then feel free not to make use of this information, that you should have got yourselves before relying on unsubstatiated guesswork.
No offense, but Ill give it a rest now, as clearly my concerns over your blind acceptance of questionable test are causing trouble again. I look forward to the minutes of the meeting and the full breakdown of testing done. Should make for a nice 2 minute read.
James Baker
someone who clearly does not understand what the FRA and the event organisers are trying to do aside from provide one organizer with a monopoly and all others with a large extra expense.
Ever heard of archery netting?
(Message edited by jamesb on January 23, 2007)