FRA Debate - Intelligent Design vs. Darwinian Evolution

Please could a mod step in around now?

Its my point of view that this timothy chap should have gone a long time ago but we cant all have what we want now can we?

Thank god some of us think alike.... weve been saying that Ewan for ages now!

Isnt it ushually down to me and James baker to start arguments?

This thread was bound to have an argument sooner or later. EVERYONE i know has a differnt view on how the world came to be. But not everyone can express there views in a polite way.

The Big Bang. I can explain it. As I was, and ate a can of baked beans. A few hours later we got a really big BANG.

So mario, Uranus is the centre of the universe? :)

Terrible joke I know but I couldnt resist.

This thread has certainly created some interesting discussion though.

Whilst discussion is fine, again its a shame that some people on this forum dont seem mentally equipped to discuss without the need for insults.

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I remember now why i havent looked at this thread since the very first post.

Was always gonna get arguments in place of inteligent discussions.

Nevermind. :)

This thread seems very interesting, although im not suprised people are getting annoyed by now (reading all these really long posts have been giving me the biggest headache ever). I can see by reading bits(i think) that most of you know what you beleive, but trying to put it on a forum is a little tricky, especially when your trying not to offend other people.

Thats one thing wierd about the human mind, you an have your mind knowing exactly what you want to say, but when you put your view down, you always think it sounds insulting and so mellow it down abit to stop any aguments, but you actually end up contradicting yourself and starting an argument lol.

This probably sounds wierd so i will lave it at that, but if you read the posts properly, i think most of you actually think eactly the same thing ( i think lol)

Is timothy an actual roboteer? or just someone trying to cause a fuss?

no Gary, Mario is god he created the universe, you could say he pulled the universe out of his ar......... lol

Tut-tut... Mario has been assimilated by a strange non-Terran organism long ago. Its the stringy stuff that grows on his head and it has turned an otherwise perfectly good boy into a technical maniac.

Anyways, I dont necessarily believe in what I have been writing during this discussion. I prefer to think of the world and our existence in general as something eternally changing. Remember my earlier quote about free-thinking ?
Since the world around me is constantly changing, and I am constantly changing as well, what seemed like a perfectly good working hypothesis yesterday would be contradicted by facts I discovered today. Everything is changing all the time, so every theory is subject to change.
The problem is that the Creationists dont want to change their beliefs, and I must say that equally some Darwinists or Evolutionists dont want to change their pet theories either. But the majority of scientists, the real good ones, agree that from time to time new facts present themselves and you have to correct your hypothesis. An example: Stephen Hawking (if I remember correctly, please let me know when Im wrong) agreed to changing some of his theories when new facts didnt make his work add up. That is admirable.
So my best choice is Evolutionism, although I have taken notice of Creationism in order to widen my world-view. You cant discard it entirely, for the sake of knowledge, but I feel it hampers complete free thought.
And besides... I just love to watch scientists bicker over what place their newly discovered fossils take in our family tree. See what happened recently with the Hobbits... :mrgreen: