Proposals from the RFL

providing its brought in sooner rather than later, id be very happy to agree to 13.6kg and 6kg as proposed, even though ive been dead against 13.6kg in the past, i feel the reasons for wanting to do this are noble, so would vote yes on that basis. if the FRA/RFL truely believe 15kg is a better option, that would get my backing also.

Id prefer ALL rules other than weight remain unchanged however, pressures, voltge etc. There is no point in my opinion changing these, even if we could.

(Message edited by jamesb on July 21, 2006)

Jesus geoff. people are simply stateing that they wouldnt be happy with it and asking questions about other rules that are different between the FRA and RFL that DO make a difference and need looking at, whats wrong with that? besides from the sound of your post it looks like your going ahead with 13.6 regardless of thoughts.... i would surgest listening a little closer to the people your representing.

just my 2 cents

Im happy about the proposals aswell. 6kg is to small for me to build. But i would love to see the featherweight limit go up to 13.6kg. There will still be 13.6kg armoured bricks driving around. But its a good start for new people who dont have much to spend. With 13.6 kg it will be easyer to put a weapon on it.

But as Marien said before. As a builder/designer ill build to my maximum within the weightlimit.

It doesnt matter what the weight limit is. There will always be advanced robot to which starters dont have a chance. So i agree on having the same weightlimit but then seprate classes. Which is the cadet class i think??? I havent read all about it yet.

maybe 12kg advanced and 13.6 kg starters?


(Message edited by tough_as_nails on July 21, 2006)

It seems to me that the proposal involves amending the UK FW rules for the benefit of a small minority that will ever afford to travel to another continent to compete.

Would it not be better to accept that we have a lot of people who have built to 12kg on a shoestring budget and are happy to compete within the UK with that limit?

Surely anyone who can afford the intercontinental travel is well capable of affording the mods required for a different weight limit?

The danger is that this could deter the grass roots competitors that are needed to keep the sport alive in the UK. What do we really stand to gain from it?

regards

Tim Jones

I would rather it stay at 12kg, prefferably go down for me, BUT if its a minority vote then i cant complain.

The other rules mentioned were brought up as an issue as it wasnt mentioned anywhere that they were being looked at and so everyone on here had the right to mention what they thought at the time.
Would have been nice to know before hand!

Is there any expected time when all these final rules will be finished and put into action? Months/years etc?

Just a thought as we are building some new bots soon.

I have to agree with Tims view on the issue for now

The point Im trying to make here is that someone has at least attempted to resolve a problem that has been around for some time. I.E. the differences in the weight classes between various countries
OK maybe the first draft of prof. Calkins wasnt perfect, but it was amended after some healthy arguments both ways.
Now we have a possible framework to take further.
What got to me was the fact that what had started as a perfectly sound discussion was being side tracked by things such as the build rules and other things. I agree they will need to be discussed between various parties at some point but not here and not now.
My personal view is that WE need to do something as the status quo isnt sustainable.
If we want what amounts to a world standard then what has been suggested here is as close as we are going to get
I realise that I may have come across a little harsh but as I have said, this or something like it needs to happen if our sport is going to survive on a world wide basis.
Unless of course you think that we in Europe should stand alone with our 12Kg feathers therefore excluding the possibility of ANY OTHER feathers form ANY OTHER country competing here unless they loose 1.6Kg.
After the proper vote should it be the decision of the FRA/DRG/GRA to reject the concept of a simple 1.6KG increase in the feather limit (Which is after all the ONLY change that would be required to adopt these proposals)
Then to be honest I would have no choice other than to go off and take up a new hobby, as I could not in all good conscience be part of a community with such a narrow minded view.

jus coz the limits change doesnt mean u have to build to them jus means u can

The change is not so earth schattering, so 13.6kg I can easily go along with. But I for one do not for one second believe that this is going to be a major step forward. If we truly want to make all our robots compliant accross the globe, there are much bigger issues to be decided than a weight limit.

So in short, I vote yes for a 13.6kg limit on feathers instead of 12kg, and the 6kg to be maintained for the raptors/hobbyweights.