Leo, can you please change the title of the thread? I really dont like it.
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Leo, can you please change the title of the thread? I really dont like it.
Only if Martyn agrees, he started the thread.
No i dont agree to changing the title, i gave it this title because it is my opinion and i still stand by it, that this isnt really fun anymore.
Then you can retire from it. We cant force people to stay, or change their mind; we really dont want people to leave vapourbots, but if thats your opinion, then go with it.
Simple as that.
*awaits insults*
Kody, you arent helping, and your statment shows you have completly missed the whole point of me saying that this isnt fun anymore. I say im not having fun anymore, you dont make any suggestions you just say oh retire then. Reacting as if i have insulted something you created.
(Message edited by martyn on August 15, 2008)
Its because I dont have any other suggestions to give; if vapourbots isnt fun for you anymore, then fine. Im not going to go out of my way to keep you around. :P
(Message edited by kodster on August 15, 2008)
Right. After a very brief MSN argument with Martyn...well, Ill repeat it...
Martyn said to me:
i wont sugercoat this, you go around acting like you started vapours and it is something you control, something where you permit who can play and who cant, and like you decie when a major change has to happen when you want it to and try and force it on anyone and if people dont play by your rules you dont want them to play the game.
im not the only person who thinks like this either
For Martyn and anyone who is thinking the exact same thing he is, I will repeat what I said:
I dont base what I say to newbies on opinion, I base it on FACT. When I say put that in your stats Im not saying it because I want it to be that way, Im saying it because its the right thing to do in the Fanfic section.
I started nothing, I control nothing, and I certainly dont go around acting like I do. :P
And I stand by what I said. I honestly dont want control. Control has to be split among the vapourbot community rather equally, or, as its been said, it just wont be appealing enough for any newcomers.
As for advice, I only tell newbies to the community these things because its the right thing to do. Although some of you may argue what the right thing is...
Respond to this whatever way you want Martyn. I dont care. I honestly dont. I have had a lot of respect for you, especially after you welcomed me back to the community in 2006, but its getting slim.
If this is the way its going to be, I wont be on FanFic as much either. This is just god damn ridiculous.
Thank you.
Ok, Im new and all, and havent even posted my first vapor yet, but come ON. This is stupid!
Seriously, guys, if it isnt fun anymore, offer up suggestions to make it fun again. Because sitting there and complaining about it without taking action to remedy the problem is not helping.
Its a thread.... You click the link, you read it, and you get on with your life... Who cares what its called..
...I think I am beginning to realize the severity of my idiocy in that post earlier...
*epic facepalm of fail*
Meh, you guys are right...maybe Im going a little too far; I shall stop here for today. I really dont want the forum split up over this nonsense and I hope Aarons right that it wont.
Damnit Aaron, whenever I need a slap in the face, Im coming to you. :P