how overweigt is he?
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how overweigt is he?
700mm x 700mm x 200mm length, width, height here are the length width and height of the undertaker
can u tell me if the stats are ok now
Class: Heavyweight
Armor: 5mm Titaniun Weight: 100kg
Top Speed: 28MPH
Batterie 4 12v, hawkers
Motors: 4 48v LEM130s, it uses 4 12 volt battlepacks, giving it about 48 volts total.
Drive: Chain, 6 wheel drive
Steering: Tank
Weapon: 14 ton crushing claw
Chassis: Titanium
Shape: old version of storm
Name: Ultimate Killing Machine 1
Class: Heavyweight
Armour: 5mm titanium
Weight: 100lb
Top Speed: 15MPH
Batteries: 2600 NiMh
Drive Motors: 2x LEM130s driving titanium tracks at 48v
Weapon: Hydraulic crusher/lifter
Weapon Power Hydraulic (9tons for the crusher 2 ton for the lift
Strength: Powerful weapon good armour and speed
Weakness: Powerful spinner
2 incarnation of Ultimate killing machine
tell me wat u guys think
Ruark, dude, slow down. :)
First, create a new notepad/gedit/edlin/vim document and insert into this:
Name:
Class:
Weight:
Dimensions:
Shape:
armour:
Ground clearance:
motors:
method of motivation (wheels,legs, shuffle):
Top speed:
batteries:
Weapon:
Srimech:
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
And save that as a text document.
Now, every time you want to create something new, open that text document and copy/paste everything in your message. That way you dont forget half your stats as you do now.
As for your stats, I will look at those as soon as Ive opened my eyes a little.
SHOCK HORROR JOEY DID A VAPOUR AND CALCULATED THE WEIGHT SOMEWHAT
Eye Of Ran
WEIGHT: 100kg
DIMENSIONS: 95 x 70 x 26 cm (minus weapon)
SHAPE: A wide box with a wedge at the back, and a 45 cm long rectangular bar sticking out of the front, level with the top. I can draw up a paint pic if required.
COLOUR: Dark blue, with green leafy decorations, gold and green eye on top, name written in ruby red on the rear wedge
DRIVE: 2 S28-400 Magmotors run at 24v from 2 NiCad packs, driving two aluminium wheels with rubber belts for grip at the back of the robot.
SPEED: 10mph average, 16mph max
GROUND CLEARANCE: 0 at the back due to the wedge, 0 up to 60mm at the sides, and a good area of the sides and the front is protected by the blade, so while you could quite easily flip it from there, try getting in underneath :P
ARMOUR: Top and rear wedge is a single welded sheet of 5mm Hardox, thickness up to 8mm in key areas. The sides and underside armour are 8mm polycarbonate with 3mm grade 5 titanium behind it in areas, and to save weight there is no chassis; instead all components are mounted to the underside of the top, with rubber between them to slow down any axe type things, and the side and bottom polycarb panels are chemically welded together.
WEAPONS: A 20 kilogram 80cm long front Hardox bar/blade, which is sharpened and shaped into a hook at the ends to dig in and rip away opponents, with sections cut out to save weight as well as concentrate weight on the outside. This is driven by a redundant chain drive from a 121.6cc 8.6hp Stihl chainsaw engine fitted with an onboard starter to a maximum speed of 4000rpm, but is generally kept at 1500-2000rpm unless stated to minimise self-destruction, getting up to top speed in six seconds but powerful enough to throw in three. It should deliver an approximate maximum of 100kj, and mounted 7mm off the ground (with a ball castor in the centre of the bar itself keeping it from hitting the floor) it could seriously damage wheels, skirts, and flippers - I dont want to think about what happens if you have external tracks.
SRIMECH: Invertible. The side armour is angled somewhat to prevent it resting there.
NOTES: Components are rubber mounted (as mentioned) to minimise shock from its own and others weapon hits. All the components (excet the weapon and its drive chains) are located in the rear box/wedge section, which helps with balance and keeping the wedge to the ground.
STRENGTHS: Decent armour, fairly good drive, large area of attack
WEAKNESSES: Not the fastest, Newtonian physics
WEIGHT CHECK:
Armour: ~35kg
Drivetrain/electronics: 10kg
Batteries: 10kg
Weapon: Engine/drive 15kg, blade 20kg
Miscellaneous parts: 10kg
Is there anything at all wrong with this? Im not too good with spinners or weight checks, so Id appreciate some feedback here.
(Message edited by joeychevron on June 04, 2008)
Ruark:
Your stats:
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Weight: 100lbsI hope you mean kg (220lbs)
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Batteries: 2600 NiMh2600mAh is quite little, think 3700mAh to 4600mAh for heavies, and supply the voltage and how many in parralel (1 pack of 36V 2600mAh will not give you enough power to drive for 1 minute, let alone 5).
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Weapon: Hydraulic crusher/liftersounds familiar. :)
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Weapon Power Hydraulic (9tons for the crusher 2 ton for the lift Power will always give way for speed. The stronger you make your hydraulics, the slower it gets. In the end there is only so much oil a pump can push in a minute. It is complety possible though so you dont have to change these stats if you dont want to.
Your stats are improving, But try not to rocket off 15 updates a minute please. :)
Joey,
Eye Of Ran
Im thinking something like RW series 4-5 Fluffy with an undercutter, am I correct?
About the shape: what is the bar on top in aid of?
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DRIVE: 2 S28-400 Magmotors run at 24v from 2 NiCad packs Make that 4 packs at least. Your 10kg assesment for batteries is enough for 6 packs so weightwise it will not make much difference if you do.
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to save weight there is no chassisWhile that is a good idea of your whole robots monocoque is a thick metal, you can never achieve the stiffness to withstand your own spinner if you do it in a mixed enviroment like this. You could always make a subframe in the robot for the weapon only, that also saves weight.
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with sections cut out to save weight as well as concentrate weight on the outside. Good choice.
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SRIMECH: Invertible. The side armour is angled somewhat to prevent it resting there. The spinner would take care of that also, provided it still spins.
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WEAKNESSES: Not the fastest, Newtonian physicsDarn that Newton for inventing those stupid laws. :)
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Drivetrain/electronics: 10kgA bit optimistic.
Well except fot the things mentioned Id say you are in fairly good shape.
I was thinking more of a T shape with the undercutter at the thin end...I really need to start either designing robots with conventional shapes or improve my powers of description. :)
http://www.insaneclown.nl/vapourbots/showrobot.php?id=5http://www.insaneclown.nl/vapourbots/showrobot.php?id=5
Sideswipe, my latest creation. With animation of course.
...Side Swipe? :proud:
Joey,
http://www.computerclub.nl/uploads/fanfic/wuzzel.jpghttp://www.computerclub.nl/uploads/fanfic/wuzzel.jpg
You mean like that?
Well I actually couldnt think of a more appropriate name, but I did neglect to check if it existed. :)
Yeah, more or less, only with the back section a bit longer.
...Side Swipe? :proud: Looks cool, reminds me of Maximill from extreme 1 for some reason.
lmao, thats the name the (now banned) person Mark Elam used for that 4 tracked machine XD
@Joey: Well having seen Maximill at the cold wars (the Dutch qualifiers) I can tell you this would do a heck of a lot better. :) Frank would agree Im sure (one of Maximills builders). After Extreme 1 he had to build a new Maximill in record time to be in time for the Dutch series.
@Kody: so I found when I did a search. I am not about to change the name though, rendering took me long enough.
Nobody said you had to change the name. :P
I think we can safely ignore any sort of rights Mark had to robot names now. :)
Agreed. :)
I forgot to texture the spinner. :sad: Just assume its metal ok? :)
Hi guys umm wats up umm i like to finished my vapours and as u all know im new so pls help here is my second incarnation of Ultimate killing machine 1
Name: Ultimate Killing Machine 1
Class: Heavyweight
Armour: 5mm titanium
Weight: 100lb
Top Speed: 15MPH
Batteries: 2600 NiMh
Drive Motors: 2x LEM130s driving titanium tracks at 48v
Weapon: Hydraulic crusher/lifter
Weapon Power Hydraulic (9tons for the crusher 2 ton for the lift
Strength: Powerful weapon good armour and speed
Weakness: Powerful spinner
2 incarnation of Ultimate killing machine
the design of my vapour is like from Storm (4 wheeled drive crusher/lifter robot) but mine is tank driven robot with the same weapon here is a link for u guys to see u will see storm so u get the idea wat my vapour looks like http://www.teamstorm.com/storm/events/newark2002/index.htmhttp://www.teamstorm.com/storm/event...2002/index.htm pls tell me wat u think on Ultimate killing machine
Right...
Armour: 5mm titanium Okay, perhaps a bit weak but alright.
Weight: 100lb Heavyweight robots are 100kgs, and according to Google 100lbs works out at 45.36kgs. Somewhat underweight :P
Batteries: 2600 NiMh This is under dispute, but for a first timer I dont think going into extreme detail about battery capacity is really needed. You have two LEM130s, so you might be better off with NiCads, six NiCad packs should do it - these weigh about 10kg I believe, could be worn but thats what Storm II uses.
Weapon: Hydraulic crusher/lifter This is a problem - with two LEMs, tracks, and Ti armour, so I dont think you can get a hydraulic crusher/lifter in the remaining weight - again, though, I could be wrong.
The main problem I see is that you appear to be taking the basic idea of real robots and modiffying things without appreciating the weight and size requirements - indeed, you havent actually specified a size. Id advise you to look at what Leo posted in the archives, and take his advice by designing something, putting it in the stats he listed, and then posting it here so we can get a better idea of things and give more constructive advice.
While youre at it, try coming up with some designs of your own too. :)
What he said. :)
ok guys let me try one more time hopefully ill get it right :) but its ok with u guys can u give me example or something pls
What do you mean by an example?
If you want example robots, look at the other robots on Kodys/Martis board - dont just steal them (:P) but you can see what sort of ideas weve used and draw inspiration from that.
If you want an example idea, just do a wedge shaped flipper - its fairly simple and its effective (look at Wedge Devolution, Seung Mina, GeForce, Die-Ceratops Re-Invertus, Liar, the list goes on :P)
I hope this stat is ok now
Name: Ultimate Killing Machine
Shape: Kinda like old storm with a crushing/lifting claw but tank driven and has 2 TI spikes on back
Color: Grey
Speed: 18mph
Weight: 220lbs (100kg)
Armour: 10mm TI.
Chassis: Titanium, box-section chassis
Drive: 2 LEM130s @ 36v
Power: 6 NiCad Battle Packs
Motivation: 2 titanium tracks with urethane-rubber coating for traction. Very hard to break, even the chain links.
Ground Clearance: 1mm around the front, 2mm around the sides,
Turning Circle: Zilch
Dimensions in CM (LxWxH): Unknown
Weaponry: A crushing lifting claw that can crush 9 ton and lift 2 tons powered by a modified chainsaw engine driving a hydraulic pump (Srimech: Invertible.
Strengths: Exceedingly powerful amount of force delivered by weapon, fast, powerful, well-armoured.
Weakness: Exposed tracks from the front and back
here my second vapour ill try to make my own joey
Name: Pain
Shape: Suicidal Tendencies
Color: Grey
Speed: 18MPH
Weight:220lb (100KG)
Armour: 10 Fortal Aluminum
Chassis: Titanium
Drive: 2 LEM130s
Power: 12 x 9.6-volt NiMh Radio Controlled Car Batteries, each weighing 12oz.
Motivation: 6 inner 6.5inch wheels
Turning Cirle: 0
Dimension in CM (LxWxH: Unknown
Weaponry: 2 crushing pincer (Vertical) with 14 ton pressure at the tip
Strenght: Powerful Crusher, good armour and speed
Weakness: Hates Spinners
Self-Righter: Invertible
Note: It is powered by an (1) M-Mac M40 Hydraulic Actuator running at 12v , which can give 14 tonnes of pressure. The actuator has already been used in Robotic Combat, so this robot is realistic. The crusher is custom made out of S7 tool steel and heat treated to give it maximum strength , so it can rip through Titanium easily. For the weapon to function properly, the robot contains 12 x 9.6-volt NiMh Radio Controlled Car Batteries, each weighing 12oz.
Pls tell me wat u think guys think on both of my vapours
I see nothing wrong here, except that you DO need to make the dimensions known to us all, and once again, 10 what of Fortal Aluminium...actually, I can guess its 10mm of Fortal Aluminium :proud:
And also, out of interest, what is Fortal Aluminium, as Ive never heard of it.
well paul fortal Aluminium is a type of metal thats stronger then steel its use for Industrial things and about the Dimensions umm well ineed a little help with that do u know a site that calculate dimension and stuff
are both my vapour ok now so i can post it at Kodys site
Fortal is a brand name. The aluminum alloy in question is either 2024, 5086, 6081 or 7075. They are indeed stronger than steel (7075-T6 even stronger than stainless of the same thickness) but its also more brittle.
It makes for good armour and chassis building but its not easy to weld when you are at an event.
Roight, Oi be noticin two main problems ere:
1: 10mm of armour is too heavy unless its something like HDPE - especially on robots with hydraulics, which are quite heavy. Go for at the most 7mm, or consider Hardox - its as heavy as steel, but 4mm should prtect you against most things for now.
2: You dont state what voltage the motors run at, which is imprtant if it comes down to pushing.
Other recommendations: you dont need a chainsaw engine to drive the hydraulics, you can get the same effect by using a Vivoil pump, for less weight. Also, tidy your stats up a bit - particuarly on Pain (which is a real robot from S2 by the way :P) youd be better off putting the info on the crusher in the weapons section rather than in notes. Dmensions would be good as well.
The Vivoil pump alone is not enough Joey, you still need a motor to turn it.
*realises he forgot that on every hydraulic robot he designed*
Would a LEM be good enough, or do you need specific ones?
If a LEM is good enough for Kan-openers pump, its good enough for pretty much every robot.
Thanks for that, off to change all my pumps from running on fairy dust :)
Name: Pain
Shape: Suicidal Tendencies
Color: Grey
Speed: 18MPH
Weight:220lb (100KG)
Armour: 7mm Hardox
Chassis: Titanium
Drive: 2 LEM130s 48v
Power: 12 x 9.6-volt NiMh Radio Controlled Car Batteries, each weighing 12oz.
Motivation: 6 inner 6.5inch wheels
Turning Cirle: 0
Dimension in CM (LxWxH: Unknown
Weaponry: 2 crushing pincer (Vertical) with 14 ton pressure at the tip Its powered by an (1) M-Mac M40 Hydraulic Actuator running at 12v , which can give 14 tonnes of pressure. The actuator has already been used in Robotic Combat, so this robot is realistic. The crusher is custom made out of S7 tool steel and heat treated to give it maximum strength , so it can rip through Titanium easily. For the weapon to function properly, the robot contains 12 x 9.6-volt NiMh Radio Controlled Car Batteries, each weighing 12oz.
Strenght: Powerful Crusher, good armour and speed
Weakness: Hates Spinners
Self-Righter: Invertible
is my vapour improving?
7mm Hardox is even more overweight than 10mm ti...I wouldnt use more than 4 or 3.2mm thick on a hydraulic robot with 6WD (it doesnt get any thinner)
Also, why are you stating batteries and voltage for a hydraulic actuator? I know they need electrical power to work, but the batteries powering the actuator fall into the category of safe to assume its there, so doesnt need to be stated and they confuse what the weapon is a bit.