Use the Arena to your Advantage 1 - Bloody Low Walls

ok, just heard from Andy (the guy he told me Martyn wanted in) that he made that up in order to get Danny in... weird story, I know

Martyns place is free again, and will be taken by... TONY!

1. Paul Cuomo - Worck
2. Joey McConnell - The Quaestor
3. Andre Ydolly - Sir Spinalot
4. David Sheppard - Hoof
5. Andrew Jackson - GeForce 4.0
6. Cristopher Mason - Y4
7. Frank Goacher - Starstorm 2
8. Kody Kunz - The Zenith
9. Alex MacWilliam - Cosmic Thunder
10. Chezza - Namies Style
11. Danny Bailey - Cat With Wheels
12. Alex Holt - Achilles
13. Aaron Knight - Attraction/B.i.t.c.h B.e.a.t.e.r
14. Steven McGregor - Wedge Devolution
15. Daniel Stickler - Dennis The Menace
16. Tony Polizi - Walk Away

Im going to be awkward again, and direct you to the latest Y4 design. Sorry, but be fair, the draw has not been done yet, so it is legal.

Y4

Weight: 99 kilos
Body Shape: T-Minus
Speed: 16mph
TC: 0
GC: 8mm, but the flipper blade reaches 0.
Wheels: 2 semi outer (that means theyre protected)
Armour: 5mm steel on body, 9mm titanium on wheelguards.
Power: The usual 3x 12v batteries and couple Magmotors (S28-400s) for power.
Colour: Grey
Weapons: An extremely powerful pneumatic CO2 flipper (Try 300 kilos+). Can perform about 30 or so flips before it starts weakening.
Srimech: The flipper acts as srimech. It can also be used as gymnastics. A light flip will knock the robot back over, but pressing hard on the button will send the robot into a 540 degree spin before landing, or a Matador style bound in mid air. All prperly controlled, of course. The robot can also run inverted, so if it gets too close to the arena wall, it should be OK.
Inspiration: A quote from a cartoon. Taz-mania, I believe.
Strengths: Powerful flipper, very entertaining.
Weaknessess: Semi exposed wheels.

What did I do? :uhoh:

Biatch Beater it is (Code name was Wyfe Beater :uhoh:). Render! COMING SOON :proud:

Decided it was time to introduce a beater design to vapourbots, since its been quite successful in the US competitions.

Sir Loin - http://youtube.com/watch?v=sE73YCpTLOshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=sE73YCpTLOs
Humdinger - http://youtube.com/watch?v=UdpBcE8MK9whttp://youtube.com/watch?v=UdpBcE8MK9w

I was wondering what a beater was. Now I know... unfortunately.

Awesome design, I expect to see a few of these emerge.

I watched that Humdinger vid about 2 weeks ago and was literally drooling over it... damn Aaron for hearing about it too! :sad:

The beater concept looks like a spinning triangle of horizontal bars designed to flip rather than damage. Am I right?

I think its more a drum type thing with less complexity and more ability to throw people in the air as well as damage.

Basically its a spinning drum in the shape of an I (looking from the side). It flips and damages and is scary.

Only close ups I could find of a beater at the moment.

http://www.lovingangels.com/Nick/IMG_1117.jpg

Chris, no problem, the new Y4 is in :wink:

thanks for the pics Aarin :proud:

Ive rendered a beater months ago, one of the uzzels.

http://www.computerclub.nl/uploads/fanfic/fuzzel.jpghttp://www.computerclub.nl/uploads/fanfic/fuzzel.jpg

So when will this tournament start? Im dying to see Sir Spinalot debut. :angry:

itll start soon, trust me on that :wink:

Aaron&Steve, I heard youre updating Biatch Beater and Wedge Devo repsectively, would you like to enter the updated versions of those vapours in this tournament?

The only real edits Ive made to Wedge Devo are making it slightly smaller and ditching the longer spatula which I never use anyway, so nah, just stick with the stats youve got.

ok, I leave the option open for Aaron to enter a slightly updated Biatch Beater

Use the Arena to your Advantage 1 - Bloody Low Walls
+1>THE DRAW

Walk Away vs Starstorm 2

Sir Spinalot vs Wedge Devolution

Dennis The Menace vs Achilles

Cat With Wheels vs Hoof

The Zenith vs GeForce 4.0

Cosmic Thunder 2 vs Y4

The Quaestor vs Biatch Beater

Namie€™s Style vs Worck

Tactics and stuff like that please, all stats can be found here http://strickenone.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=utatyaed&action=display&thread=141http://strickenone.proboards99.com/i...=display&threa d=141

Oh great, I get the evil one...Ill wait for stats before doing my tactics.

COOL, MARTIJN! Lets predict, shall we :proud:

Walk Away vs Starstorm 2

Walk Away is very damaging...but I think Starstorm can get by here.

Sir Spinalot vs Wedge Devolution

Andres first ever battle...and Im sorry to say that itll be a loss. Wedge to toss him around like nothing.

Dennis The Menace vs Achilles

Please, oh god I hope Achilles loses here, then I wont have to face him. :proud: Of course, I might not win my match so thats kinda moot. :proud:

Ill still take Danny to drum Achilles out.

Cat With Wheels vs Hoof

Too hard.

The Zenith vs GeForce 4.0

Um...damn it. :proud: Hopefully I can slip under the side of flipper and smack it over the wall. Keep an eye on it and smack it again if GeForce makes a recovery. If I fall out myself, circle the outside really fast, and then turn sharply. This will hopefully boost myself over the wall and let me fight again.

Cosmic Thunder 2 vs Y4

Y4 doesnt have a lot of area to get this flipper going, whereas Cosmic Thunder does. Alex MacWilliams to win here.

The Quaestor vs Biatch Beater

I just might go with Joey here, actually. That axe looks devastating, and the front I think would take enough punishment from whatever beater weapon Aaron is working on at the moment and throw it away.

Namie€™s Style vs Worck

Looking at Worcks stats, Im guessing the CO2 bottles are actually exposed since the diameter of the bottles themselves are too big for 13cm. :proud: Also, it doesnt state whether Worck is invertible or not. Sorry Paul. :proud: Chezza and Namies Style to advance.

His flipper blade is the only part of Y4s body that has 0mm, I believe. Since its a T-Minus shape (wheels at the front) and I have superior velocity, Ill use my better manuverability to avoid the flipper blade and get underneath him for an OOTA :D

Sweet! Nice to hear that Im in! Thanks Martijn! :)

Well I suppose I should make my predictions for Namies Style vs Worck...

Worcks vulnerabilites are around the sides of himself and the back. Oh yes, and the corners are even more vulnerable. So basically I think that if Namies Style attacks him around those areas, and then gets Worck tossed at the low walls of the arena (for 30 secs of course) she should be pretty much alright.

«GeForce 4.0 vs. The Zenith»

This tournament provides an advantage to rammers and flippers, eh? Well it just so happens GeForce is both of those. First of all I shall go for a box rush and use my wedge to slow down the shell. The thick armour and wedge shape should help me deflect its blows.

Then, drive in under The Zenith, use my wedge and pushing power to shove it accross the arena and then let rip with the flipper. This should send it sailing several feet above those bloody low walls. I shall aim to use these tactics over and over again in this fight. Stalling the spinner and then using both my ramming abilities and flipping abilities to make use of the low walls. Eventually I should be able to launch it into the pit or immobilise it on impact.

In the other matches, Im thinking Walk Away, Wedge Devo, Achilles, Cat With Wheels, Cosmic Thunder 2, Byatch Beater and Worck to all progress.

Y4S TACTICS

If Cosmic Thunder does get under me, I could simply throw myself off (and thus upside down), run away and then revert myself. And why not? After all, thats something T-Minus could do (as shown in his fight against Sunshine Lollibot). If he flips me out of the arena, do the same trick and do a MEGAFLIP and throw myself back in.

I know I, at least, can re-enter the arena. I dont think Cosmic Thunder can.

Ah, its the full skirted machine against the half-skirted machine, he has a slightly higher top speed, but those skirts are going to cause resistance. My key advantage is that I have a rear hinge flipper against Dannys top hinged flipper, but that means his front end will be lower. My aim is to attempt to get at the sides and rear trying to get him OOTA as soon as possible.

And because there is no house robots, i cant have any fun :sad:

Woot! The draw is up and I believe I can make good predictions :proud:

Walk Away vs Starstorm 2: Walk Away to walk forward by flipping Starstorm up and then breaking it all up!

Sir Spinalot vs Wedge Devolution: Andre may cause an upset and damage Wedge to breaking point, but more likely will be Steven to flip Sir Spinalot OOTA.

Dennis The Menace vs Achilles: The newly designed Achilles may be able to withstand the Welsh robot and allow Alex to win!

Cat With Wheels vs Hoof: The very good Cat With Wheels to flip Hoof over to win the JD.

The Zenith vs GeForce 4.0: GeForce to win, because [puts on Darth Vader voice] the force is strong within it! :proud:

Cosmic Thunder 2 vs Y4: Cosmic Thunder to give Y4 the bye-bye!

The Quaestor vs Biatch Beater: Go Joey!

Namie€™s Style vs Worck: Oh, here I go. I need to get a few things straight about Worck. The gas bottles are put in widt-ways to make them fit, so they dont stick out. What Im doing is charging diagonally at the front of Namies Style, as that way, whatll happen is Ill hit the opponent with a point of my wedge, making SURE Ill get under, and once shes on top of Worck, my barbs on the wedge are making sure she wont go away from me. I have both the more push behind my flipper and the more power, and the more flips, so just flip it about! If I get her near the arena wall, hen go for the OOTA.

The gas bottles are put in widt-ways to make them fit, so they dont stick out.

Sorry Paul, but I just stated that the dimensions of 5kg CO2 bottles just will not fit in a 13cm high machine. Most are over 20cm in diameter. If the diameter of a CO2 is less than 13cm, it will be over 70cm in length, which is also further than your own robot. Mind fixing up your stats? :P

Proof of this is a CO2 fire extinguisher: http://www.actfire.co.uk/product/1071.php

Do CO2 bottles have to be cylindrical?

Not necessarily, but most CO2 bottles Ive seen in robot combat are cylindrical.

Fact remains though: 2 5kg CO2 bottles, whatever possible dimensions, just will not fit into Worcks own dimensions.

ok, Im bad with pnuematics myself, anyone else has a say in the case Kunz vs Cuomo?:proud:

I plan to avoid an argument, and so Im going to size down my bottles to 2 x 3kg CO2 bottles.

Tactics: The only robot I didnt want to face...

We are about the same speed, so for him to get the flipper under me he will have to outmanouver me. I have 2 wheels against Achilles 4, so manouverability is in my favour. I will aim to get behind Achilles and hit the back of it with the drum. The rubber/Ti mix of Achilles armour shouldnt be a problem for the drum. Even if there isnt much damage, the impact should flip Achilles over, allowing me to dominate in this fight.

**Fingers Crossed**

Since when does two wheels mean better manouverability? If anything, it is harder to drive something with two wheels because you are essentially making movements around your own axle as an axis and so you have less room for error. Anyway that aside just keep the pressure on, ram it to the sides and flip is the first order of the day, or just flip before I get to the sides... try to keep my new toughened front to the foe.

Plan and Tactics for Sir Spinalot first battle: Beat the living scrap out of the robot. BLAZE OF GLORY!!! :)

START THE TOURNAMENT! START THE TOURNAMENT! START THE TOURNAMENT! :angry::angry::angry:

I think Andre wants the tournament started.

SHUT UP! DONT SHOUT! DONT DOUBLE POST! DONT DEMAND! GO AWAY! NOBODY LIKES YOU!!

(Message edited by Dinowarrior on March 17, 2008)

Andre, Chris, can you both calm down please? Itll be started when its started.

Im calm down already! :lol:

just start it.

Just show some patience + some damn respect.

Mark, Andre, you dont know the drill around here, easy, please...

geez...