Never heard of it, but it wouldn't fly with us.
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Never heard of it, but it wouldn't fly with us.
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DOUBLE KILLA 2
A two part clusterbot that can only attack when apart. The first part is always the same, but it has a new kind of interchangable weaponry - in the pits there are three different second part robots! (Of course, only one is chosen and used in each fight.) The second part is fixed to the first part's flipper with a catch. When the fight begins, the catch is released by remote control and the second part rolls off, with the first part giving it help with the flipper if necessary.
DK1
Weight: 50kg
Shape: A wedge with sloping sides, painted blue (the bevelled wedge (or something like that) from AOD/ED)
Dimensions: 60 x 40 x 30
Speed: 12mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at front, 0 at sides and rear due to skirts, 2mm behind skirts
Armour: 4mm Hardox
Wheels: 4, inside robot - poke out of top of sloping sides so it can run upside down if need be
Power: 24V battery and motors
Weapon: CO2 powered flipper, with Cassius-style forward flip, and static spike in centre of rear
Srimech: Flipper acts as srimech if robot lands on back; can't rest on sides due to wheels; spike in rear mean it can't rest there. If the flipper fails, it can run inverted.
Tactics: To flip opponents on their backs or OOTA, and ram them with the spike if all else fails.
Strengths: Can run inverted
Weaknesses: Ineffective against skirted opponents
DK2 (1)
Weight: 45kg
Shape: An invertable axlebot, with Sump Thing like wheels, machinery in the middle, a low wedge at the back and the weapon at the front
Dimensions: 55 x 55 x 40
Speed: 11mph
Ground Clearance: 5mm at front (lowest point under disc), 1mm at sides due to wheels, 0 at back due to wedge
Armour: Machinery and wedge are covered by 4mm titanium
Wheels: 2, outside robot, but protected partly by wheel guards
Power: 24V battery and motors
Weapon: 5kg 3000RPM vertical spinning disc which can be used either way up. It spins vertically - if the robot is flipped, its direction is changed. Also a low wedge at the back which can be used either way up.
Srimech: Invertable
Tactics: Basically attack opponents with the disc and try to get under them with the wedge if the disc fails.
Strengths: Powerful weaponry; invertable
Weaknesses: Vulnerable to axes
DK2 (2)
Weight: 49kg
Shape: A cuboid with skirts
Dimensions: 60 x 25 x 20
Speed: 14mph
Ground Clearance: 0 due to skirts
Armour: 4mm Hardox
Wheels: 4, inside robot, poking out the top so the robot can run inverted
Power: 24V battery and motors
Weapon: An axe with a Terrorhurtz-style head, which rests inside the robot so it can run upside down if need be. The skirts can also act as a wedge.
Srimech: Axe acts as srimech. If axe fails, the robot can run upside down, unhindered by the axe because it is inside the body when at rest (that is, unless it stops in an awkward position). It can still use the skirts upside down because they flop down.
Tactics: Hammer opponents to death and try to shove them around with the skirt wedges at the same time.
Strengths: Low to the ground
Weaknesses: Armour can be pierced by powerful spinners
DK2 (3)
Weight: 40kg
Shape: An axlebot with a cylindrical body, two wheels and the weapon at the front
Dimensions: 15 (not counting rod; 70 if you count rod) x 35 x 13
Speed: 17mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at rear due to skirt, 1mm at sides due to wheels
Armour: 4mm Hardox
Wheels: 2, outside robot, but protected partly by wheel guards
Power: 36V battery and motors
Weapon: A long rod, like Blade Runner or Herr Gepounden, with a metal cross shape with pointed ends at the end, so it can attack by swinging the rod down on opponents or spinning.
Srimech: Invertable
Tactics: Run at opponents and swing the rod down on them, or spin on the spot to smack them. If it can, DK1 can push opponents into it while it's spinning to damage them.
Strengths: Invertable; aggressive
Weaknesses: Minimal pushing power; may be ineffective against well armoured opponents
As I said, it would not fly with us (Us being DRG). We make sure everyone has ample time to repair and during competitions we might move a bit with fights so everyone has a sporting chance to repair, but we do not allow people to bring in a fresh robot to replace another one mid competition, and not in cluster either.
I guess it would depend on whose tournie it was. Leo argues a good point that due to it being an unsporting way to overcome damage, it most likely wouldn't be allowed but that would only be for real competitions. Since all vapourbot damage is magically repaired after each fight regardless of the level of damage (wish that would transition into real-life sometimes :lol:) then there would be no advantage gained by substituting a badly-damaged section of your clusterbot for a fully-working one. So I guess it would be a decision for the tourney creator.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcbore
Okay, I need some help with this robot, formerly Drumroll S.R, now a tribute to Jamie.
Megaroll II (Active)
Weight: 100kg
Shape: A larger version of the new Drumroll: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c367/ ... l_mk23.jpg
Colour: Same as the planned new Drumroll: Grey drum with red teeth, aqua body, and yellow spikes.
Dimensions: 90cm x 85cm x 17cm
Drive: 2x 24v S28-150 Magmotors, powered by 2 24v 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks in parallel.
Locomotion: A pair of 180mm blue foam-filled rubber tyres.
Armour: 5.5mm titanium/vanadium alloy for the sides(6.5mm hardox for the spikes), 20mm rubber with 5mm HDPE and 2mm titanium/vanadium alloy underneath for the top(to stop axes), 6mm titanium for the back, and 6mm hardox for the drum.
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 5mm all around.
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapon: The weapon is the same-old drum with Hardox 650 teeth bolted on, however it now weighs at 15kg, and is now powered by dual S28-150 Magmotors at 24v, spinning at 4000rpm. The weapon doesn't put out that much(around 20kj), but it's very sturdy and can survive many impacts.
Srimech: Invertible
Strengths: Tough armour, thought put into the entire design.
Weaknesses: Since Drumroll II hasn't competed, I have no idea how this revision will work.
Bio: Well, after seeing the results of Drumroll S.R(now Megaroll), and seeing that it would be a good idea to show Jamie what Drumroll II can do, I might as well revise Megaroll to look like Drumroll II...
Win/Loss Ratio: N/A
...Mark, I hate to say it but you have actually made it worse now :P Smaller drum motors, not enough battery power to feed them, the armour appears to have gone backwards...should have kept it as it was imo.
And just to be a pain, Drumroll II doesn't look like that CAD anymore :lol:
It's undergoing a redesign at the moment to coincide with my decision to take it up to 'super-spinner' standard.
Just to give you an idea of scale Mark, Hornet uses one S28-150 Mag for its disc and its a featherweight, so as Joey says, using only two on a heavyweight weapon is underpowering things a bit. Maybe two S28-400s? Although I'm not sure how much more power they pack compared to the 150 and you'd probably have to upgrade your packs which adds weight.
I also only get a figure of 8kJ from the Team Cosmos calculator taking estimated sizes for your drum based on your robot's height.
I made a few modifications, however I've decided to keep its shape the same.
Megaroll II (Active)
Weight: 100kg
Shape: A larger version of the new Drumroll: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...mroll_mk23.jpg
Colour: Same as the planned new Drumroll: Grey drum with red teeth, aqua body, and yellow spikes.
Dimensions: 90cm x 85cm x 17cm
Drive: 2x 36v LEM-130 motors, powered by 3 36v 3000mAh NiCad Battlepacks in parallel.
Locomotion: A pair of 180mm blue foam-filled rubber tyres.
Armour: 5.5mm titanium/vanadium alloy for the sides(6.5mm hardox for the spikes), 20mm rubber with 5mm HDPE and 2mm titanium/vanadium alloy underneath for the top(to stop axes), 6mm titanium for the back, and 6mm hardox for the drum.
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 5mm all around.
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapon: The weapon is the same-old drum with Hardox 650 teeth bolted on, however it now weighs at 15kg, and is now powered by an LEM-170 motor at 36v, spinning at 4000rpm. The weapon doesn't put out that much(around 20kj), but it's very sturdy and can survive many impacts.
Srimech: Invertible
Strengths: Tough armour, thought put into the entire design.
Weaknesses: Since Drumroll II hasn't competed, I have no idea how this revision will work.
Bio: Well, after seeing the results of Drumroll S.R(now Megaroll), and seeing that it would be a good idea to show Jamie what Drumroll II can do, I might as well revise Megaroll to look like the original design of Drumroll II...
Win/Loss Ratio: N/A
Hi guys, been lurking in the shadows of the forum for a couple of days, and just got my account activated, so I'm going to give this a go.
Anywhere there is a question mark, It means I need help with this information
Name:D2
Shape: Truncated Pyramid with wedge at front: See Pic
Colour: Red & Black: See Pic
Dimensions:80X70X75
Drive: 2 LEM 130s @ 36V (Need help on gearing, is 5:1 reasonable?)
Power: 6 NiCad 300mah batteries @ 36V
Motivation: 4 Hardox wheels with a Urethane Rubber coating (Is this allowed?)
Speed: 10 MPH Average - 15 MPH Max
Armour: 5mm Aliminium
Chassis: Aliminium Monocoque
Ground Clearance: 0MM every where thanks to skirts and wedge, 6mm under skirts (too low?)
Turning Circle: 0
Weapons:
1: A large 15 KG drum sits on top of the robot, it is powered by a S28-400 Magmotor and spins at 3500 RPM and is armed with 4 2kg hardox bars that are the length of the drum, and have smaal sharp points on them.
2: The wedge at the front houses a flipper similar to Warrior SKF, it takes it's power from the spinning drum and can easily turn over a robot twice it's weight.
Srimech: The drum can easily self-right the robot, but the flipper can also do an equally good job.
BIO: Kind of like Warrior SKF on steroids. if it works.
Pic: http://i33.tinypic.com/33lphdd.jpg
How's that?
If it's any good could someone do a CAD please?
Welcome to the fanfic section Mr...mint? whatever your name may be :proud:
That doesn't look like a bad first attempt at all, few things that I'll point out in my current tired state (will do a more in depth review of it tomorrow if someone hasn't beaten me to it :P); namely that car batteries are both too heavy to be practical and are technically prohibited in combat robotics, they can leak acid if hit which isn't very safe...a better alternative is to use NiCad or NiMh packs, a guess looking at your design is that five or six 36v 3000mah NiCad packs will do the job quite nicely in minimal weight. The other glaring thing is that the drum motor you're using (a PERM 132) is one of those things that while very awesome is too heavy and too powerful to really be of much use in a 100kg robot, it weighs about 15kg on its own (and you have to have extra batteries to power it...) so I'd downgrade to something like a LEM or an S28-400 Magmotor that will do the job nicely without draining your batteries flat inside 90 seconds.
You could also be a bit clearer on the shape of the robot maybe, it's a description that creates a few different images in my head...but overall not bad, few improvements and I'm sure it'll be fine :)
hello CPA23 aka A Wafer Thin Mint, feel welcome! its good to see we still get newcomers these days, may I ask how you found this place?
As for your first attempt, not bad and fairly original, lets see, for starters I think the description of the shape could be clearer Truncated Pyramid with wedge at front, a truncated pyramid I understand, but by definition a pyramid has wedges on all 4 (I take it its a 4 sided pyramid?) sides, so with wedge at front confuses me.
Also the dimensions, while they are far from unrealistic, I get the feeling this bot could be lower, as it is its nearly a cube, then again the height may be due to the drum resting on top, but even then I get the feeling its fairly high.
Now for the weapon, the Warrior SKF flipper is a complicated weapon and nice to see you use it. You have to consider how the weapon works though and thereby how to alter it, like by using a vertical drum instead of a horizontal disc. The flipper of Warrior has a... metal thing under it somwhere, that can be lowered so its touched by the teeth of the disc. When the disc hits it, the flipper can do nothing but go up and because of their different movements (vertical/horizontal) they merely nudge each other and both continue their own path. If you'd use this technique with a vertical flipper, I think you'd rip your own flipper off. Id like to point you to Joey's robot The Hurting, first post on the following site: http://strickenone.proboards.com/index. ... thread=492 . In this complex but clever robot a vertical flywheel powers a flipper.
I can see this design doing well with some minor tweakings, good job
Incorrect. The flipper is actuated by an offset ring on top of the spinning rim. When the linkage to the flipper drops onto that offset rim, it causes it to be pulled back towards the center of the robot, pulling the top pivot of the flipper and making it lift. If it relied on a tooth hitting the flipper to work it would destroy itself after a few hits :PQuote:
The flipper of Warrior has a... metal thing under it somwhere, that can be lowered so its touched by the teeth of the disc. When the disc hits it, the flipper can do nothing but go up and because of their different movements (vertical/horizontal) they merely nudge each other and both continue their own path. If you'd use this technique with a vertical flipper, I think you'd rip your own flipper off.
I have some photos at home I can post up to show how it works if you don't understand with my rough description
lets just say I got a very rough description of how it works once, let some years go by, and what you can read in my post above is whats left of my memories, lol, your rough description is fine but Id love those pictures nonetheless ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by knightrous
I've been interested in robotics for a while, and I decided I could use some guidance, so I looked up combat robotics forums and this came up.
Also, is the flipper a viable weapon?
And what dimensions are suitable?
Archives.org has them...Quote:
Originally Posted by majinb
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...rior_wedge.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...rior_shell.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...rior_servo.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...or_gearbox.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...or_springs.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/200510230...rior_drive.jpg
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It uses a Magmotor to spin a 2 thick chromoly shell to about 900 RPM, and then uses a high power servo to pull an engagement pin.
This pin causes the flipper arm to drop down and ride an offset ring on top of the shell, which in turn powers the flipper, and recocks it!
So, will it work?
BUMP!
I'll try one too :)
Gravity 5 (currently a vapourbot, hopefully a real one soon ;) )
Weight: 100kg
Shape: Big wedge, with the front 30cm of the sides also angled in a wedge
Colour: red frame, (so red box section) rest black (armourplating between the box section)
Dimensions: 80cm x 70cm x 30cm
Drive: 2x 24v Bosch gpa 750's, powered by 3 PBQ 12V 9Ah sla batteries in series to give 36V.
Locomotion: 20:1 aluminium gearboxes with steel gears, running a go carth wheel/tire combo. This time the tires are filled with foam stuff so they can't get punctured :)
Armour: 4mm Hardox, with some 10mm polycarbonate somewhere for good looks, and some loosely mounted hdpe for the axes.
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: Front and the first 30 cm of the sides : 0mm @ rear wheels : 30mm
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapon: Rear hinged full pressure flipper, powered by 2 burkert valves, 2 1,7litre buffertanks and 2 2kg co2 tanks
Srimech: the flipper
Strengths: history
Weaknesses: dunno :)
Bio: after 2004, finally a new gravity :)
Have you decided which ram to put in yet WJ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gravity
good point :)
Gravity 5 (currently a vapourbot, hopefully a real one soon )
Weight: 100kg
Shape: Big wedge, with the front 30cm of the sides also angled in a wedge
Colour: red frame, (so red box section) rest black (armourplating between the box section)
Dimensions: 80cm x 70cm x 30cm
Drive: 2x 24v Bosch gpa 750's, powered by 3 PBQ 12V 9Ah sla batteries in series to give 36V.
Locomotion: 20:1 aluminium gearboxes with steel gears, running a go carth wheel/tire combo. This time the tires are filled with foam stuff so they can't get punctured
Armour: 4mm Hardox, with some 10mm polycarbonate somewhere for good looks, and some loosely mounted hdpe for the axes.
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: Front and the first 30 cm of the sides : 0mm @ rear wheels : 30mm
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapon: Rear hinged full pressure flipper, powered by 2 burkert valves, 2 1,7litre buffertanks and 2 2kg co2 tanks 100mm diameter x 180mm stroke ram
Srimech: the flipper
Strengths: history
Weaknesses: dunno
Bio: after 2004, finally a new gravity
Why is everyone using my Standard Stat sheet? :shock:
Anyways, WJ, what do you plan to do with the Vapour Gravity?
Give everyone that is currently using Gravity 5 (the one that doesn't even exist) in fanfics an idea of the specs, so now it can be used the way it's supposed to :)
You mean that you aren't using it yourself?
Excuse Me.
Is anyone actually going to answer my above question?
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Originally Posted by majinb
Does this quote help?
Okay guys, It's me, Mark.
I have this idea of trying to create a robot with a big blade ala Gyrate that puts out over 1 MJ of force, but I'm trying to get it to where the robot doesn't kill itself in 1 hit whenever it touches something. Would anyone happen to know how this could be done?
try a belt system with lotsa shock proofing?
hey 600th post :P
jack
A quick set of stats:
Extreme Gyration (Active)
Weight: 150kg
Shape: A flat disc.
Colour: Chrome all around.
Dimensions: 20cm x 70cm x 70cm
Drive: 2 36v LEM-130 motors, powered by 11 A123 Battlepacks.
Locomotion: A specialized pair of Drillzilla-style shuffling feet, featuring urethane rubber feet.
Armour: 4mm titanium, with 5mm of vulkanized rubber underneath.
Speed: 7mph
Ground Clearance: 4mm all around.
Turning Circle: 0m
Weapon: The weapon is a 100cm long 27kg Hardox bar, powered by 3 Husqvarna chainsaw motors that produce 17hp at 24000rpm. The chainsaw motors are geared 3:1, lowering the bar's speed to 8000rpm. Using the KE calculator, the bar should put out(rounded to the nearest tenth) 1.5MJ. That's right, Megajoules. The blade spins around 800mph, about(rounded to the nearest hundredth) Mach 1.15, and gives off sonic booms from the blade. The weapon should spin up to 8000rpm in about 4 seconds.
Srimech: None, but to flip it, you have to get past the spinning bar first, and there's a chance that, due to gyroscopic forces, the robot might flip itself back onto its wheels.
Strengths: As of this post, the biggest, and most dangerous spinner around.
Weaknesses: Unreliable Srimech.
Bio: Nega2vity/Ninjoid get's stepped up a notch. Using calculations made by the brilliant and infamous Aaron Knight, Extreme Gyration utilizes the biggest and most deadly blade around. All parts are highly shock-proofed, and I'm surprised Aaron never turned his Super-Deadly spinner into a shuffler to fix the 2mm polycarbonate...
Win/Loss Ratio: N/A
:uhoh:
Trying to get something putting out 1MJ to work without killing itself an/or its weapon can't be done unless you build it way, way over any of the weight limits going around.
Aaron himself admits Gyrate was a disaster XD
Random question: Would Extreme Gyration at least kill its opponent before it died?
My attempt at something good :)
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Name: All Bar One
Weight: 100 kg
Shape: A very wide paralelogram wedge
Colour: Battleship Grey
Dimensions: 33cm * 110 cm * 15 cm
Drive: 2 * LEM 130 (95S) on 48 V with 6 * 15 cell A123 ANR26650M1 battery packs
Locomotion: 2* 15cm diameter 5cm wide titanium hubbed wheels covered in urethane rubber
Armour: 7mm hardox on the wedges, 5mm hardox top and bottom, 10mm hardox on the ends and heavy shock proofing to protect vital components
Speed: 29mph
Ground Clearance: 0mm at the wedges, varies along the sides to 5mm at the back although technically more due to inverted wedge
Turning Circle: 0 cm
Weapon: Translational spinner and rammer dishing out 8.4 KJ when top speed ramming
While spinning:
18.2 KJ @ 500 rpm
73.1 KJ @ 1000 rpm
(now it might kill itself)
164.5 KJ @ 1500 rpm
292.5 KJ @ 2000 rpm
Srimech: Invertible
Notes: A bar shaped translational spinner that can ram if stopped spinning due to it having two wheel drive
Looks great to me - but you probably actually know better than I do! :proud:
The only thing I do notice is that the robot is 15cm high and the wheels are 15cm in diameter, yet the robot has a ground clearance of 5mm. Surely if the wheels are as high as the robot there would be no clearance? Or am I just being a bit dull and missing something :proud:
I included wheels in the robots overall height for some reason :lol:
Note to self: never try to work in decimetres again.
That is actually a fantastic first attempt, although I'm hardly a translational spinner expert I've been staring at it for a while and can't find anything really majorly wrong with it :proud: you might have some trouble getting the centre completely hollow, but you should still be able to get most of the weight distributed at the ends (the 10mm end plates will help there) and if my memory is correct regarding the voltage of individual A123 cells, you'd actually get 49.5 volts from your packs rather than 48...still a very good and well thought out design though, you should be pleased with yourself.
I don't suppose you use MSN do you?
this is just a random idea ive got
is it possible to do a robot aquiring
e.g i take control of a bot that the specific person doesnt use any more with there permission
Yes I do, my MSN is on my profile.Quote:
I don't suppose you use MSN do you?
I guess it's possible... If you want some of my retired bots, I'm willing to talk with you about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by death robotics
ok mark would i be able to have corsair and son of tenderizer
(please keep the stats on your site in case i forget)
I'll send you a PM about it.